#NoMore1ManaNerfs
#AdditionalStatNerfs
#EqualityAgainstRNG
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Secret mage was and is completely about curve, face damage, and judicious trading. At least; until they destroy Classic cards, that is.
Tempo mage with original Mana wyrm was pure curve until you could pyroblast.
I don’t know what your definition is, but I think mine is different.
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How was secret tempo mage not about curve, the whole deck was playing on curve.
You wanted Mana Wyrm turn 1. Arcanologist turn 2 to discover your secret. And Kirin Tor Mage on turn 3 to cast your secret for free and bump mana wyrm’s damage.
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exactly. Tempo and curve is all Secret mage is.
Mozaki is dead??? how i didnt knew there were nerfs… Also Mage deserved it >:V
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yeah, cause a 40% win rate was so oppressive.
Nerfs are not allways done to reduce the power of a good deck, they are also use to shut down annoying decks that are not good for the game. Both Mozaki mage and Tortolia mage are toxic, not because they are the best but because of how they are played. If you like that kind of game stile, then go and play solitarie or rock paper and scissors. Any way what was that nerf you are talking about?
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I don’t consider secret mage as curving.
If they’re paying full cost for a secret, that’s not curving out, as the very nature of playing a secret is that you give up curving out immediate stats or effects this turn for a potential bigger pay off when the secret is triggered.
If they’re putting secret in play for a discounted cost if not 0 mana, they’re not curving. They’re cheating the curve.
But not trading, as I said.
And no, tempo mage wasn’t pure curve. It was pure tempo. Tempo is not the same as curve, at least in my definition. Playing say a 4 mana deathrattle on turn 4 is “curve”, but it’s probably not tempo as deathrattles usually aren’t.
In my view, curve means you try to not waste any mana each turn.
Tempo however means you try to squeeze as much stuff (stats, damage, etc) each turn, and you’re more liberal in burning down your hand for it.
Because it is the only good deck Mage has right now. If they gave Mage players better stuff, they would not have made this stupid nerf.
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WHAT IS THE NERF? I really dont know ToT.
Any way I also would like every class to be playable, but not with that kind of game play. I would be glad if they kill both the Mozaki and the Tortollan deck, but i would be even happier if in change they buff some tempo tools, maybe the 7/6 elemental that summon a copy of him self could cost only 6, or that guy that invoke mana wyrms, i dont know make him more playable.
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Discover effects and cards that randomly generate cards can no longer generate themselves. So for example, you can’t discover a Magic Trick from another Magic Trick, or get a second copy of Evocation from Evocation, or discover a Primordial Drake from another Primordial Drake.
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but mozaqui wasnt nerfed
i thought TC would be happy about the changes to discover
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Oh… I didn’t know. So like Alexstrasza.
But it is really that bad for mage? I really dont see a big problem with that nerf. Actually i would like a bigger one
Well, We sort of agree. But, Secret mage in Wild is a curve deck and I hit legend twice with it doing nothing but playing on curve and denying the opponent the chance to act because he was forced to react to my plays, which is what i call tempo.
On paper, it makes chaining discovers more difficult, which negatively impacts Mozaki combos because now it’s a lot harder to get a bunch of free spells from chain-discovering Magic Trick while having a Sorcerer’s Apprentice on the board. How much of an actual impact it will be, we’ll find out soon enough.
Well magic trick now has more chances to get either Evocation or Cram Session. So lose some gain some. And evocation into evocation was already too much. I think the impact of that nerf is almost 0
Except Shaman and DH.
Stop whining.
Mallenroh, you seem to have a lot of problems with the Mage class.
Yet you also make it clear that it’s the one you play the most. If you’re really that fed up with the class identity, why not try a different class?
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What mage card was nerfed? Cant see anything on website. Was it already announced somewhere?
Dont tell me its really SA. That would be kinda the worst possible nerf in history 
i think he choses to play mage and only mage for some reason