It's rigged! Deal with it!

Bring proof, you aswell… Im waiting.

HSReplay, Vicious Syndicate and other data aggregate websites have recorded untold millions of matches for years, and have full access to all kinds of statistics related to each and every one of those matches, yet they have never, ever found any evidence of “rigged” matchmaking or rigged RNG.

There’s my proof for my claim that the RNG isn’t rigged. Now, I’m waiting for your proof.

Thats no proof rofl :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: its just somwthing you wrote, bring me real ecidence plz

Only after you post proof that you actually played against a Demon Hunter running both Loatheb and two copies of Brewmaster.

I’ll wait.

You’re in no position to ask us for proof when you’d provided literally nothing for yourself. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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When u show proof of ur claim, i wait too. I just did u dodge it

So this thread is at 185 posts, what’s the verdict?

The verdict is simple:
Why does this thread exist?

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When people are willing to believe things without good reason, they are unreasonable.

Ergo, they can not be reasoned with.

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You mean the same way you’ve dodged literally every single one of my requests for evidence that any religious group knew about Earth’s magnetic field, vitamin D, and ultraviolet radiation before they were discovered by science? M8, you’re the one dodging more claims here than we are :rofl:

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Really well explaining the way you are on the spot.

When a person didn’t arrive at a conclusion based on facts or evidence, and they refuse to acknowledge any facts or evidence that contradicts their existing beliefs, you cannot use facts or evidence to dissuade them from their beliefs.

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You know Im still waiting right? But i guess it got hard on you when i showed u quotes? Or u just try to avoid it

Waiting on what? Me, I’m still waiting on your source on magnetic fields and ultraviolet radiation.

Mir, it is impossible to prove the game is not rigged. Literally impossible, you can’t prove a negative.

However, you can provide evidence to support either side of the argument. Monolyth already directed you to the various third-party websites that collect data from thousands upon thousands of matches - the fact that they have never discovered any evidence of rigging is pretty overwhelming evidence in itself that the game is not rigged.

So, no, it is not ‘proof’ as you put it - but what would settle as proof in your eyes?

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Its in the game, simple

Maybe I can help. I used to be one of the people who believed HS to be rigged. I made a simple idea to expose deck manipulation.

Based on board state, you could predict your draws. I did this with Warlock an Priest.

I made sure the Priest had complete trash like all high cost cards an x2 Shadow Word Death. The Warlock deck was abusing hand size to play an early Mountain Giant.

I theorized that by having a early Mountain Giant, the game would force the Priest deck to auto draw death on the turn giant was played, or after 1 turn of taking 8 damage.

First time I did this, the Priest drew Death on queue an I shocked my friend. I said how the game is rigged, an does this to promote crazy back an forth dynamic game play. Just like if someone cheats out a big minion you’ll get Hex, or Sheep etc.

We tried this again to make sure, an…nothing. it didn’t happen! Does this make the game not rigged?

The theory was Blizzard tries to force the 50% win rate. So when I conceded the first game because of Death on my giant. The game didn’t give it to the Priest next game because I was down a win.

This was crazy to see in game. Because by my experiment it was rigged like I claimed. But it didn’t work anymore when we tried. After trying a few more times I decided maybe the game wasn’t, an I let my desire to be right cloud my judgement.

I’ve seen some crazy BS in HS. I’m talking like when I built DMH Warrior after 300+ games in wild never ever seeing the deck an the minute I build it I got a mirror match.

Hearthstone isn’t rigged at its core. Atleast until I can find a confirmed test of multiple tries. That’s what I’m going by until I get for sure PROOF. Feel free to try this experiment though. It isn’t that hard to try an find out how, but you need a friend to help you with it lol.

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Ya still talk about rigged lol it cant be rigged, impossible

Oh. So you aren’t claiming that matchmaking is fishy?

Because we already established that what you claimed does in fact fall under the definition of rigging. Even if you don’t like the word, you are claiming the game is rigged,

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Fishy u know what it means? Rigged is close but not really fishy

I think it was Spotify that did a full advanced algorithm to avoid repeating albums and artists. Reports of Apple only seems to be about them retaining the shuffle order so you don’t hear repeats. Though they may have implemented something similar since then.

https://labs.spotify.com/2014/02/28/how-to-shuffle-songs/

But yeah that story is the one I like to bring up too when the question of the game being rigged comes up. Humans are have an uncanny ability to spot patterns. Great for evolving and surviving in nature where those patterns make sense. Not great when the data is totally random and any patterns are coincidence. Even worse, there’s a cognitive bias that once you think you see a pattern, you’ll be more likely to passively commit cases that support it to memory and reject garbage data that does not.

So when someone says they’ve played for years and have seen tons of games that prove that the game is rigged in a certain way, the amount of time doesn’t mean they have the best data. All of it has been spoiled by that bias, which just makes them the one with the largest quantity of unreliable data.

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