Ok the thread has gotten way too long for me to reread to find out what card is the issue this is all about. If Cheezus would post said problematic card like they did the tech card they proposed, i’d be super grateful. I want to keep up but im not willing to start all over at the top again. I did that in school with every assigned book chapters I had to read (i read each book chapter a collective 5 to 10 times because I’d lose track of what I’d been reading in its entirety. im just not willing to keep doing that here. lol)
You didn’t read it once, so you can’t use the word “reread”.
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card=/= scenario or combo
dont shamans play flash of lighting the turn before the combo? why isnt mentioned on the OP or can it be done without it ?
You be you, but everyone else here knew what they meant
I have read it, and Im still at a loss as to what its about. Im not gonna re-read it. Just because I cant regurgitate the details like Im some sort of savant with perfect memory doesnt mean i didnt read it you useless troll.
Didn’t know playing Inzah was considered “considerable amount of setup”
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LOL
People thinking Stomper is actually a counter to Shaman are deluded. The card just delays the combo by one turn, because at the later turns Shaman doesn’t need the discount from Flash of Lightning to OTK you.
You are not willing to “start all over the top”, yet expect other people to go out of their way to step by step explain the combo to you, because you couldn’t bother looking it up.
This is not a daycare center, and i doubt anyone would want an opinion of a person that hasn’t seen the card in action.
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Well played my friend. I love when people assume and then, well you know what that makes them. LOL
The tech card pointed out earlier only DELAYS the combo at best. Unless you are doing something to mess with the shaman’s hand, they’re still going to do what they do. Even if you have copies of said tech card, all you are doing is delaying the inevitable if you can’t actually counter their cards directly.
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Ah yes the deck that does nothing but draws cards in the early game, and then plays the 2 mana ‘I’m totally not gonna OTK you next turn bro please don’t play Speaker Stomper/ Solid Alibi/ Secrets etc bro’.
nO cOuNtErPlAy
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Or you know, you could be pressuring them, forcing them to use combo pieces as removal etc.
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I don’t get the fuss about OTK decks. Their favorite meal are control decks, particularly priests. They’re doing the lord’s work if you ask me.
You’ve answered yourself here. But hating on Shaman because of how priest is struggling misses the point. if Hunter wasn’t so oppressive, Priests could free up some tech slots for this matchup.
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Then shaman could actually be meta relavent with its otk strat. But since hunter exists, shaman doesn’t. Rogues eat shamans all day too because who has time to wait for their turn 5 otk when rogue is just gonna windfury a 15 attack mech at you.
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The deck is more of a proactive response to the nuke 'em from orbit spell selection vs minion… Starting on turn 3 any minion played is nuked from orbit by whatever single target removal exists… and then on turn 5 the nuke everything from orbit AOE options open up and all minions played get nuked from orbit.
Mabye people can play other decks if they tone down the amount of minion removal in the game.
I’m not as bothered by the amount as I am by how much extra the removal does now. If it was just removal, it would be a tempo or value difference.
Remember shadow bolt? The warlock single target removal that did four damage for three mana? Now look at what three mana removal does … that is the issue. It draws, it heals, it summons, etc. There’s no loss of tempo or value for removing minions.
That’s the basic definition of power creep in HS Neon. 3 mana for 4 damage is so 2015. Now that same 4 damage will cost 2, have some added beneficial effect for you or it’s not worth playing. We all know that this is the Blizzard method. Just look at how bloated WoW’s player stats became after 3 or 4 expansions. Got so bad they had to nuke the whole system from orbit to start over again (sort of) and just went back to bloating everything. At this point, even if they somehow got into their heads to do a full Hearthstone reset into more vanilla-like cards, within a couple of expansions we’d be back in the same power-crept boat. And not everyone wants to be forced into playing aggro to counter this shaman mess. Besides, considering how easy it is now for them to generate more cards or copies of their needed cards, even pressure might not be enough to deal with them.
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It’s funny to see people say shaman is balanced, you won’t run a card just for the slim chance of RNG’in into a shaman. Not every deck will have a card that screws with a hand. And nothing outside of screwing with their hand or deck is gonna save you from a OTK.
Very important reminder:
DO NOT BUY Diablo 4 before 2015. Everything you farmed will be useless when the game is in its mature form. Expect the second new character being added to the D4 to be your optimal buy-in time to enjoy the game.
What does this have to do with anything in this thread?
Give me a quote somewhere with those words. Nobody thinks anything is balanced in the current rotation. Everyone knows the game is unbalanced, even if it looks like people (like me) are defending it.
It’s just kinda…fun.
Ree he said the f word
Everyone, attack!
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