I'm uninstalling and moving on

Justification my friend, you just gave some examples that are supposedly correct :confused:

Come on you two we should be fighting the real enemy here… Activision.

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Believe me or not I find this to be more fun than playing the game LOL

Are you serious?

When you type ‘i think’ before something you are expressing an opinion.

A fact would be ‘the stats show’ before typing something.

I don’t know how to make that any simpler for you.

Thats great lol

Stop making me type 20 chars jdud9dhh29i

Well most conversations are just an exchange of opinions, yet most of the time people don’t even say “I think” even once, but people can still recognize the difference between opinion and fact, and that is the power of context.
The blog started with the title of
“I’m uninstalling and moving on”
Notice how the person starts with “I”, meaning that they will talk about themselves and their personal experience. Therefore everything you read from this person should be seen as a subjective opinion and a personal experience.

And this was an example of justification.

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Incorrect.

Quite often people will discuss why they’re doing something and use data (facts) rather than emotion (opinions) to justify their actions. Otherwise they’re likely to be called irrational.

Good argument, but incorrect to this situation given the next quote

Normally when you vent you tend to talk about your feelings, cause you know, gotta get those bad feelings out

This shows that this isn’t a rational decision, they are probably in an altered state of mind and are making a decision out of emotion.

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It doesn’t change the fact in their OP they stated something as fact which is what I replied to. :slight_smile:

You entered this thread by quoting what I said:

To which I answered:

See on one hand, you entered this discussion trying to prove me wrong by saying ‘i didn’t justify it with anything’ and when that didn’t work now you’re throwing back to a previous conversation (which if I were you, I would’ve lead with because your initial criticism was weak and easily rebutted due to highlighting the basic conventions of the English language.)

Next time lead with a stronger argument rather than changing tracks half way through. I’ve got some more straws if you need to grasp. :slight_smile:

Actually, by going back to the previus conversation and explaining why you were wrong in your assumption I proved that you didn’t justify, cause while you argument was just “when use ‘I think’ = opinion” I explained the situation instead of just saying “You’re wrong, this 3 examples are right”. That is justification and that is something you have failed to do.

Neither of “I think” or “the stats show” or any implication of these are shown, so where do we get the information to know if the claim that

Is an opinion or a fact?
I was gonna write “You guessed it!” but thinking about it, you wouldn’t even guess it xD
Anyway the answer is through context

Yes it does, that’s what I’ve been explaining. You’re the one who misinterpreted their words.
You can’t just say “This doesn’t change it” cause it just shows your complete incompetence in this subject.

In this post you didn’t address ANYTHING of what I said, you instead tried to look for an out by calling my sudden shift in subjects which, I can admit, might seem uncorrelated, that’s mb, I forget that you’re the same person who thought that the original post was talking about facts cause they didn’t use “I think” at the start of every sentence.

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The sky is blue on a clear day. (fact)
'I think the sky is blue on a clear day (opinion that can be proven true).
‘I think’ the sky is Fluro-pink on a clear day (opinion that is demonstrably false).

Statement of fact that cannot be proven.

I won’t be swayed. Language used online is important. Too often, people that like to discuss/debate online fall back on ‘you should know/infer this.’ I refuse.

Ultimately, they expressed an opinion in their OP, they provided no data to backup their claim in the OP of which I called them on. It’s not debatable. They stated a fact which was in fact an opinion.

You, entered the conversation half-way through quoting me:

In response to:

Making a claim, with no data to support it (which they did), without opinion signifiers (which they didn’t, although you tried to argue the title was a catch-all disclaimer which it isn’t) is, arguably, claiming something as fact.

I appreciate all the extra text you’ve typed but I won’t budge from the basic language that signifies fact and opinion because the language used ‘is’ the core of it.

You either express an opinion or you state a fact. There is no middle-ground.

Oh thank you! I thought I was the only madman in this forum that write opinions without making it clear!

One day I made the “mistake” to write an opinion like “this card isn’t good because…” and people went crazy because they thought it was a scientific announcement! From that day, I just type “imo” or “I think” randomly in sentences, so even amoebas can tell I am saying something subjective

Imo, unless someone provides data, link, sources or say “this is how it works”, then it’s always a personal opinion.

Normal day examples:
“Public transport are bad, they are always late”; it’s not necessarly true, but from the person experience it is
“Public transport are always late, look at this survey”; since there is a survey, it is true

“Pizza is better than ice cream”, it’s obviously subjective
“My dog is very fast”, it’s obviously subjective
“This game is so bad”, it’s obviously subjective
“This post makes no sense in the HS forum discussion, but I wrote it, so I’ll leave it here”, even without “imo”, it’s still subjective!

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It might be the case where you value different things out of HS than other ppl.
F/e you mention how you enjoy BG
Other ppl such as mysef enjoy Deckbuilding. That’s where you think of ideas with cards, not slotting, but building.

If Devs don’t do anything to support DB, or do something to shorten it like prerelease parties, it makes one not want to play the game bc alternate modes like Duels like BG’s that are not deckbuilding dominant or full, are being resource hogs / prios essentially.

So, maybe instead of defending the game in general, you should talk about values, and come forward and just say “i dont value deckbuilding, i value the things the devs have catered to lately, which is things like BG’s and Duels” instead of saying “ur just saying opinion and i love battlegrounds”.

Logically, if you like BGs, you don’t value deckbuilding as a top priority, so it’s safe to say you aren’t interested in being expressive with a decklist and you enjoy looking up decks or just playing meta. That’s a very tech-driven, and to be honest, lazy way to play hs, and it’s what tech did to hearthstone, not the devs, but the dev’s response has been almost nothing, luckily they chose one correct move which is the 1/2 way set.

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For sure, in the context of this discussion however, the OP is like:

So it’s not so much me poo-pooing a mode and actually me defending that HS is not ‘bad’ in general.

Just quickly, put ‘DB’ in brackets after the first time you type it in full if you’re going to shorten it moving forwards to signify deckbuilding which I assume is what you meant. (source: university essays…lots of them…) :slight_smile:

Well no, because I’m not the one that made a thread and said:

The onus is on the poster, not the contributors…

You want to change the narrative? Talk to the OP, they wrote the intro… :slight_smile:

Good for you, personally I’ll wait until next expansion ( as I already bought the mega bundle for this) and see if they changed the horrible reward system, if they haven’t I’ll either quit or jo go F2P BG as I quite that mode still, and should be able to save up 2k or whatever just grinding a few matches in casual every now and then’

Quick holes lesson, if you dont preface a statement with:

  • I don’t like holes
  • I am not a hole
  • Holes are bad for you

You’re in the A hole club. Which most of us are.

Also welcome back to the being in the hole. :a::hole:

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I think you should spend more time thinking about how your words make you look instead of worrying how my words make me look.

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I suspect the Battleground doesn’t do very well.
So Blizzard puts mandatory quests on “Duels” and “Battleground”.

You can waste lots of time if the quests require “Win to Finish”.
You can easily play for a 20 minute game and lost, and get no credit.

Sure, if you want to spend your valuable time hating a game you no longer play, then go ahead. Nobody will stop you.

Jesus christ dude XD

Why it isn’t? See you say “this isn’t right” yet you don’t justify your opinions

My 8 year old sister has a less black and white view that you, and again why is there no middle ground?

Like literally I could quote all your post for not following your own rule, unless you think of yourself so highly that you think you’re just stating facts which wouldn’t surprise me given this whole conversation.

Well then you will be the only affected by this decision, people won’t change how they use language unless you change that, and if you think calling out post on the internet, you’re delusional.

To be honest you just look like a clown, you’re the only one who thinks they are stating facts for some reason.

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