Justification my friend, you just gave some examples that are supposedly correct 
Come on you two we should be fighting the real enemy here⌠Activision.
Believe me or not I find this to be more fun than playing the game LOL
Are you serious?
When you type âi thinkâ before something you are expressing an opinion.
A fact would be âthe stats showâ before typing something.
I donât know how to make that any simpler for you.
Thats great lol
Stop making me type 20 chars jdud9dhh29i
Well most conversations are just an exchange of opinions, yet most of the time people donât even say âI thinkâ even once, but people can still recognize the difference between opinion and fact, and that is the power of context.
The blog started with the title of
âIâm uninstalling and moving onâ
Notice how the person starts with âIâ, meaning that they will talk about themselves and their personal experience. Therefore everything you read from this person should be seen as a subjective opinion and a personal experience.
And this was an example of justification.
Incorrect.
Quite often people will discuss why theyâre doing something and use data (facts) rather than emotion (opinions) to justify their actions. Otherwise theyâre likely to be called irrational.
Good argument, but incorrect to this situation given the next quote
Normally when you vent you tend to talk about your feelings, cause you know, gotta get those bad feelings out
This shows that this isnât a rational decision, they are probably in an altered state of mind and are making a decision out of emotion.
It doesnât change the fact in their OP they stated something as fact which is what I replied to. ![]()
You entered this thread by quoting what I said:
To which I answered:
See on one hand, you entered this discussion trying to prove me wrong by saying âi didnât justify it with anythingâ and when that didnât work now youâre throwing back to a previous conversation (which if I were you, I wouldâve lead with because your initial criticism was weak and easily rebutted due to highlighting the basic conventions of the English language.)
Next time lead with a stronger argument rather than changing tracks half way through. Iâve got some more straws if you need to grasp. ![]()
Actually, by going back to the previus conversation and explaining why you were wrong in your assumption I proved that you didnât justify, cause while you argument was just âwhen use âI thinkâ = opinionâ I explained the situation instead of just saying âYouâre wrong, this 3 examples are rightâ. That is justification and that is something you have failed to do.
Neither of âI thinkâ or âthe stats showâ or any implication of these are shown, so where do we get the information to know if the claim that
Is an opinion or a fact?
I was gonna write âYou guessed it!â but thinking about it, you wouldnât even guess it xD
Anyway the answer is through context
Yes it does, thatâs what Iâve been explaining. Youâre the one who misinterpreted their words.
You canât just say âThis doesnât change itâ cause it just shows your complete incompetence in this subject.
In this post you didnât address ANYTHING of what I said, you instead tried to look for an out by calling my sudden shift in subjects which, I can admit, might seem uncorrelated, thatâs mb, I forget that youâre the same person who thought that the original post was talking about facts cause they didnât use âI thinkâ at the start of every sentence.
The sky is blue on a clear day. (fact)
'I think the sky is blue on a clear day (opinion that can be proven true).
âI thinkâ the sky is Fluro-pink on a clear day (opinion that is demonstrably false).
Statement of fact that cannot be proven.
I wonât be swayed. Language used online is important. Too often, people that like to discuss/debate online fall back on âyou should know/infer this.â I refuse.
Ultimately, they expressed an opinion in their OP, they provided no data to backup their claim in the OP of which I called them on. Itâs not debatable. They stated a fact which was in fact an opinion.
You, entered the conversation half-way through quoting me:
In response to:
Making a claim, with no data to support it (which they did), without opinion signifiers (which they didnât, although you tried to argue the title was a catch-all disclaimer which it isnât) is, arguably, claiming something as fact.
I appreciate all the extra text youâve typed but I wonât budge from the basic language that signifies fact and opinion because the language used âisâ the core of it.
You either express an opinion or you state a fact. There is no middle-ground.
Oh thank you! I thought I was the only madman in this forum that write opinions without making it clear!
One day I made the âmistakeâ to write an opinion like âthis card isnât good becauseâŚâ and people went crazy because they thought it was a scientific announcement! From that day, I just type âimoâ or âI thinkâ randomly in sentences, so even amoebas can tell I am saying something subjective
Imo, unless someone provides data, link, sources or say âthis is how it worksâ, then itâs always a personal opinion.
Normal day examples:
âPublic transport are bad, they are always lateâ; itâs not necessarly true, but from the person experience it is
âPublic transport are always late, look at this surveyâ; since there is a survey, it is true
âPizza is better than ice creamâ, itâs obviously subjective
âMy dog is very fastâ, itâs obviously subjective
âThis game is so badâ, itâs obviously subjective
âThis post makes no sense in the HS forum discussion, but I wrote it, so Iâll leave it hereâ, even without âimoâ, itâs still subjective!
It might be the case where you value different things out of HS than other ppl.
F/e you mention how you enjoy BG
Other ppl such as mysef enjoy Deckbuilding. Thatâs where you think of ideas with cards, not slotting, but building.
If Devs donât do anything to support DB, or do something to shorten it like prerelease parties, it makes one not want to play the game bc alternate modes like Duels like BGâs that are not deckbuilding dominant or full, are being resource hogs / prios essentially.
So, maybe instead of defending the game in general, you should talk about values, and come forward and just say âi dont value deckbuilding, i value the things the devs have catered to lately, which is things like BGâs and Duelsâ instead of saying âur just saying opinion and i love battlegroundsâ.
Logically, if you like BGs, you donât value deckbuilding as a top priority, so itâs safe to say you arenât interested in being expressive with a decklist and you enjoy looking up decks or just playing meta. Thatâs a very tech-driven, and to be honest, lazy way to play hs, and itâs what tech did to hearthstone, not the devs, but the devâs response has been almost nothing, luckily they chose one correct move which is the 1/2 way set.
For sure, in the context of this discussion however, the OP is like:
So itâs not so much me poo-pooing a mode and actually me defending that HS is not âbadâ in general.
Just quickly, put âDBâ in brackets after the first time you type it in full if youâre going to shorten it moving forwards to signify deckbuilding which I assume is what you meant. (source: university essaysâŚlots of themâŚ) ![]()
Well no, because Iâm not the one that made a thread and said:
The onus is on the poster, not the contributorsâŚ
You want to change the narrative? Talk to the OP, they wrote the intro⌠![]()
Good for you, personally Iâll wait until next expansion ( as I already bought the mega bundle for this) and see if they changed the horrible reward system, if they havenât Iâll either quit or jo go F2P BG as I quite that mode still, and should be able to save up 2k or whatever just grinding a few matches in casual every now and thenâ
Quick holes lesson, if you dont preface a statement with:
- I donât like holes
- I am not a hole
- Holes are bad for you
Youâre in the A hole club. Which most of us are.
Also welcome back to the being in the hole. ![]()
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I think you should spend more time thinking about how your words make you look instead of worrying how my words make me look.
I suspect the Battleground doesnât do very well.
So Blizzard puts mandatory quests on âDuelsâ and âBattlegroundâ.
You can waste lots of time if the quests require âWin to Finishâ.
You can easily play for a 20 minute game and lost, and get no credit.
Sure, if you want to spend your valuable time hating a game you no longer play, then go ahead. Nobody will stop you.
Jesus christ dude XD
Why it isnât? See you say âthis isnât rightâ yet you donât justify your opinions
My 8 year old sister has a less black and white view that you, and again why is there no middle ground?
Like literally I could quote all your post for not following your own rule, unless you think of yourself so highly that you think youâre just stating facts which wouldnât surprise me given this whole conversation.
Well then you will be the only affected by this decision, people wonât change how they use language unless you change that, and if you think calling out post on the internet, youâre delusional.
To be honest you just look like a clown, youâre the only one who thinks they are stating facts for some reason.