And you are so much more intelligent that you know the pattern, yet you cant/refuse to provide anything substantial that supports your claim?!? Do you not see how silly that sounds???
Why do you even bother with someone who is obviously trolling with nothing concrete to prove?
I can tell you exactly how it works so you can see for yourself if you don;t care to try it then no data will change your mind, it’s already made up.
I can tell you you are wrong so you can see it for yourself but if you don’t want to know you are wrong, no data will change your mind.
Still no answer as to why the algorithm let me off? I was playing bloody token Druid. Anything with tar creeper and some aoe should have hard countered me. I wasn’t playing in off hours, surely the rigged matchmaker could have found some control players who were due for some wins?
Why did the rigged algorithm ignore me?
Or is it possible, just possible, that I was playing what turned out to be a counter to a deck that the forums were exploding about, and thus players were flocking to try out the new broken Quest Rogue. And since there isn’t a magical algorithm setting you up with bad matches I queued into what was popular and won?
I’ve never seen a troll give out a complete formula to test out a theory before that could corroborate or dismiss his assertions.
Probably because you aren’t paying attention to anything I’m saying and are just saying because you won it can’t be rigged when meanwhile I never said that.
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I seem to recall one troll boasting about their deep death rattle knowledge, so deep that they knew tricks that no one else knew. Then when they actually elaborated they turned out to be so horribly wrong they backpedalled and claimed they were intentionally lying to try to screw with people.
But then, it takes a very special troll to sink that low.
You claim the system is rigged to send you decks you are statistically unlikely to beat. The deck I was playing had hard counters, and I didn’t run into them. If I had, I wouldn’t have won. Ungoro token Druid wasn’t remarkably flexible. I didn’t just happen to run the table on each control deck that the algorithm demanded I face.
Dirty Rat was a thing, still.
So essentially… The old thread was locked because rigging posts generally turn in to this. Especially if Fallen is involved.
Granted, this thread has been relatively civil. But would it really surprise anybody if it were locked now?
Edit. It wouldn’t be because of a flame war, it would surely be because this is simply a crazy, unproductive, neverending, circular ‘discussion’ which has basically devolved in to ‘any reasonable minded person’ Vs Fallen’s completely unsubstantiated claims.
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Find us another thread on another topic that was ever locked for discussion like this being had?
Not liking a topic is not grounds for locking it, there is no trolling or spam happening, no TOS abuses, so the only reason it would be locked is the subject matter.
Cool story, but what does that have to do with a pattern in the matchmaker?
The one you posted the screenshot of?
Where Jessie said he’s locking it because of the usual reasons. I.e. threads like these turning in to pointless crazy talk.
Edit. I realise you said another topic. Why another topic? This will (perhaps) be closed because it’s another crazy rigging related thread.
Still no answer? Want me to crunch the numbers on how unlikely it would be for a player to beat those odds?
Hi,
I disagree with “there is no level of proof he can submit that the community will accept”
As long as the proof is valid, presentation of it is truthful, and the method of review is correct - then the natural acceptance of it will be there.
In regards, to the 2 screenshot as proof of your grievance, the problem lies in the presentation.
Proof of such must be presented whole and in it’s entirety. Partial proof only leads to incomplete and incorrect representation of the true picture. Thus, the whole “discussion” on that will be debatable.
More importantly, as a repeating theme I have portray in this thread, you do not need to convince anyone else but yourself. However, also as explained above, we can make mistakes, in our data gathering, analysis, and thereafter our conclusions.
THIS thread exist to let people present their data, analysis and conclusion for others for review. It is only through working together, with our different experience and expertise, that we can locate if there was an error in judgement or method.
From my previous reply, I want to test out your assumption but we need to iron out the methodology. If the wrong methodology was used, then the final result would naturally be incorrect.
Again I will say, you do not need to convince anyone else but yourself. But do remember that the process is correct or not. Because, end of the day, you are the one benefiting from a clear mind and clear conscience.
People, this is really simple
NO ONE CAN ENSURE THAT THIS IS OR IS NOT RIGGED
This is a computer game, you need to make codes for make it work, you can’t just put /shuffle all card randomly at every game /Choose any opponent, there is a reason why you have MMR, you can or cannot put codes to rigge, now if they did it or not, its another thing
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False. Data can change my mind. However, none has been presented. Without any data I have no reason to change my mind. That has been my stance all along, and not once has anything other than personal experience (see: confirmation bias) been presented as evidence.
Gonna take a whole lot more than that to convince me, especially when my experience significantly differs from the claim. You wont even give me the results of your experiment - deck tracker records and screenshots - so why should I entertain the thought that your experiment is anything more than a fictional concept? You have made no effort to convince me to change my mind, if you wish to do so then show me a screenie of the season in which YOU actually did the experiment you expect me to do based on nothing more than your word. Dont just expect me to do it when you refuse to show me YOUR results.
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I think that posts about balance are crazy LOCK THEM!
Sounds crazy right, because it is. You may not like the topic, you may think it’s crazy talk but that has never been grounds for locking a thread.
There is no rule against screenshoting a forum mod. You may not like what it displays but it’s not against TOS.
TOS abuses are, and there no TOS abuses. Definitely not from anyone claiming it’s rigged, maybe from the people saying it isn’t.
What pattern in the match maker? You keep saying it exists and you have evidence of it via an experiment, yet you refuse to show your results. Until you are willing to do so the only logical assumption is that the experiment has not yet been done to gather a baseline from.
Prove me wrong, provide your results, or stop already.
Which is exactly what I did, I provided you with a method you can try and see patterns with as I have before.
But as you can see there are players that get emotionally distressed by hearing other players think the game is rigged. It’s not about anyone trying to convince anyone, they want you never to say that out loud here.
I did edit my post when I realised you said another topic.
I said that this thread might be closed because it’s yet another crazy rigging thread.
Honestly, you used to mostly troll purely on rigging threads (or turn unrelated threads in to rigging threads, or create rigging threads yourself) - I would argue that you are a large contribution as to why these sort of threads are locked, as as I said previously, the thread has now turned in to ‘reasonable people’ Vs Fallen.
So it makes sense to me, that another thread like this, like so many that were locked previously, could very reasonably be closed too.