How is streamer's using card count software acceptable?

Playing to your quest objectives costs you far more games than your opponent using a deck tracker!

I wouldn’t dare do it in casual and miss out on the 50% bonus gold. It is a null point, because I still usually get about 60% win rate even with a terrible deck. You’re getting off topic though.

Its still costing you more games than your opponents deck tracker use.

You are getting just as off topic. Dont throw stones in a glass house.

But it doesn’t cost me any wins, because it more than makes up for it by having a larger collection.

most quests can be completed by conceding or doing things in bgs. i conceded my play two brawls quest and then did my summon 10 murlocs quest in a bg. i rarely get something that can’t be done this way. if you’re playing to complete quests and not to have fun you don’t have to do ranked or casual at all for the most part except at the very beginning of the week when you need 5 wins in ranked.

like once i got a play 30 corrupted cards quest. you can reroll it to get something else though.

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LOL

I guarantee my collection is bigger than yours, for a start.
No, your “large collection” is not winning you games.

I know you can concede but it kind of makes it unfair to people who want to play who just get constant streams of auto-concedes. Like one day I was playing casual and I was trying to play a new deck and so I couldn’t find an opponent.

Though in a pinch I will auto concede, I only usually play 3 games a day, just enough for diamond 5 or legend if using good decks.

All this while also losing to people using deck trackers?!?
I expect to see you in the GrandMasters series next year 'cos apparently you are one of, if not THE best players in the games history with that “record”.

it depends on the day for me. i did two dailies earlier today and then did some of the rexxar thing. but then noped out of it as he started dropping 39084759384759345 taunt mobs at once and i was like “get the heck out.” and have been playing other games. XD

daelin i mean. lol

Keyword here is ‘unfair’.
Nobody said its unfair to bot hs.

The fact is trackers do something useful, or else nobody would use them, instead of everyone. They provide info for the 100th time, that is part of your play, actively part of your play, not mechanically but actively. Just like pen paper obviously.

You asked what info do you gain (before you slammed in this unfair label).
So taking the first part (since the 2nd is a words mouth situation).

Info.
odds of drawing into a good card.
There’s an example.

is it fair or not is not the question.
the question is does a tracker provide something useful.
and, is botting lame or not lame?
yes, of course they do. And subjectively yes, botting is lame.

You took my word “lame” and replaced it with “how is it unfair”.
And i spotted it. Lame doesnt mean unfair. Lame means its not cool.
Unfair means idk, giving someone an unequal advantage? Its not unequal bc everyone can pen paper or tracker pick your poison.

I am oldschool, so pen paper, i dont even pen paper bc im not serious about winning like a Spike. I play to have FUN, and for me that’s not winning every match using all the tools avail and the strongest deck avail, because i hate how much tech is in our world i stand against a lot of it, especially in gaming, an entertainment side of life.

Why put tech and simplify our fun time?
I like things to use our brain more than a robot gathering info for us. Im old thats why. I dont come from the age of youtube the game then play it or bot it (yes, tracking is a type of bot, please don’t be like no tracking’s not automated its manual or some bs). If you are wondering, everyone has a right to bot hs.
It might come off aggressive to use the term bot with tracker, but its logically true. It is a robot, it is an info bot, that matters in your active play.

I like to call trackers bots bc they are, and, many ppl don’t want to admit it.
Trackers are a different type of bot, but that doesn’t make them “not a bot”.

The spikes and their trackers, the tech heavy and their trackers. I’m not more of, i am only a “i did it all on my own” gamer. So no bots (info or mechanical) for me, nor youtube with gaming. We didnt do those things back in the day, id rather lose more not using them but doing it on my own. I get value from that. Many younger ppl or spikes don’t, they want to win, or never experienced no tech gaming so they don’t know what its like to do it all on your own including youtube. I dont call using a tracker “adapting to times” i call it “losing something of value, knowing you did it yourself”. There’s a tradeoff to this tech. Just like netdecking, just like tracking. None are unfair both are super lame to an old man (or man-child for typing this much).

i read the first part of this thesis and not the entire thing, cuz TLDR. but its not a bot by any definition and if you’re going to throw around falsities and lies i don’t think anyone should waste their time responding to you seriously.

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Tracking is a bot.
its robotic right? Its doing something automatically right?

What’s it doing?
Getting info

just because it doesnt play the card for u, doesnt mean its not automated, also known as a bot.

Short enough for u?
(ik im learning to be short in 2021 its a work in progress for me)

" What does Bot mean?

A bot is a general term in gaming that is used to refer to a character controlled by a computer. In one sense, bots are all the non-player characters (NPCs) in a game, including those that fight alongside as well as against the gamer. However, the definition of bots has broadened to include gamers who employ third-party programs to control their characters."

note the use of the word “control.” by definition if you’re playing your own cards you are NOT botting.

someone who isn’t at their computer but who has their character online and is using a BOT to play for them is not the same thing as using a deck tracker. you don’t just get to make up definitions of words that have a literal meaning.

here’s the second definition on that page:

" Techopedia explains Bot

Bots are forbidden by most massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPGs) and other competitive online games. This is because a gamer can use bots to continue to rack up experience and points when he or she is not at the computer.

That said, if we follow a more traditional definition of bots, they are actually essential to gaming. Having intelligent bots as competition or help in a game allows players to experience multi-player gameplay without being online. Some players prefer to play bots rather than real people, either to practice or because their connection and/or experience level doesn’t allow them to compete online."

Is there a def for a deck tracker, like, an info bot?
Search the internet for that.

This def u slammed refers to ‘controlling’ or ‘mechanical’ as i call them, bots.
What about info bots?

did the internet not get a definition for these different variants of bots yet?
Am i the first to discover it or something?
Info bot…i wonder if google pulls up anything or youtube or so.

Bots defined as 'controlling" or “automated” seems to be the key.

U controlling? Bot!
u automated? Ur…not a bot…but also not manual…we need an additional or more inclusive word than ‘controlling’ to define a bot. Or, subcategories of bots may exist on the internet by definition which requires searching to see.

information bots exist. AIM had them. they were not intelligent or able to do anything worthwhile. you could ask them something and the response would be pure nonsense, despite the fact they were supposed to help you with something.

Holler at ur boi.
Info bots exist? Since AIM?

What is a tracker then? Not an info bot? ruh roh. (politely).

no, a tracker is not an info bot. you do realize that i mentioned something that you talked to and otherwise directly interacted with? neither of which are things that apply to deck trackers.

you can holler at yourself for not understanding… well… anything.

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Trackers are not info bots?
Please, i’ll leave you be, and you are welcome to hold this opinion.
BoL

bots are AI. that’s why you can talk to them in the case of the AIM bot or they semi intelligently play a game for you. a deck tracker is none of those things.

I’ve used no trackers and deck trackers before, i assume this one is HSReplay? Honestly the main decks i find it useful for were highlander decks, which only had 1 of each card to use, or combo. Honestly most decks that run 2 ofs, you don’t really gain benefit from tracking unless counting aoe. Honestly you DON’T need to count every single 1 drop to have a good odds.

Comparing it to a aimbot is laughable, yes, it does do what a notebook or mental memory can do, but mostly it just lets you track your self performance and class winrates better. If anything, 90% of winning is making sure you have a good deck. Having access to internet is amazing. it’s not like Runelite to Runescape where you’re missing out on xp hr trackers and quality of life features like shift one tap dropping, (the mobile osrs also has that feature, it makes everything droppable).

if anything, all the tracker mostly does is let u use the bathroom and know what card ur opponent fatigued or burned with a random card really. All you need to count is the 1 -2 aoe cards on mobile or 1-2 cards you’re worried about/legendaries and you should be good. You don’t need to worry about/track generic 1/2 drops.

You can play any garbage to a diamond 5 as long as you have a 50%+ winrate or even with winstreak bonus, plus there’s also a mmr system so even if your deck is hot garbage, it’s not ur lack of deck tracker that loses games, it’s likely your deck. Sad but true, you can play about almost anything to silver or gold maybe if it has some decent use, maybe wild diamond if you have a solid overlooked wild homebrew, but you bet both modes in standard or wild your deck makes all the difference for legend. Not the tracker. Your deck is 80% of your winrate, how you play it is the other 20%, and the deck tracker is maybe +2% if you use it to save 10 seconds to see if 4 + 5 + fireball = 15 dmg for a toilet lethal.