since you wish to have a debate on HSreplay deck tracker not being on Phones- they used to have it but had to cut ties on it - wish to learn more here you go. https://articles.hsreplay.net/2020/07/22/update-on-arcane-tracker/
They used to do it, why they stop?
’ Android 11 will start enforcing [Scoped Storage] once it launches in September, effectively removing Arcane Tracker’s ability to read Hearthstone’s logs and track games. This change introduces the same issue to Android that has [prevented us from creating a deck tracker for iPhones and iPads]) in the past.’
so it wasn’t their fault but the hardware limit what the phone can do.
They made changes and done all they could for the app store but was rejected still, so it’s not their fault at all it no longer on mobile, and this is why all mobile lost their deck trackers, it’s not HearthSim fault for such a thing.
This depends on how quickly one can write, the amount of cards one’s opponent plays in their turn, and clearly the time it takes for one to write down these cards (and their own) takes time away from one’s turn.
Personally, I think a deck tracker ought to be implemented by Blizzard into the game. I haven’t checked in some time, but I believe Android users can no longer use the deck tracker, and so are at a clear disadvantage. However, I do not believe it should be prohibited; I believe the deck tracker needs to be available to Android users, to make all things fair (as fair as they can be).
By the “mobile users can’t use one” logic using a computer at all is discrimination. After all, mobile processing is worse, targeting is harder on a small screen, and animations eat up more of your turn.
Hence, I said “as fair as they can be,” meaning as fair as Hearthstone can be, in all practicality. Also, note that I am not calling for a ban on deck tracker but rather hoping it’s released for Android users. I believe Apple users can use it.
Pretty sure app store won’t allow the software to monitor another program in the way required to function and as such it is actually apple that makes it not available for iphone, not blizzard.
I know android kicked them off their platforms for similar reasons - they mimic mal ware in how they access hearthstone.
I already stated WHY it’s not on mobile, you can read here.
do some research and you’ll see They USE to have it for the app store, but was turn down cause software stuff, it’s not their fault even after they did all they can to make it all to google standard and was still rejected without any information.
In the end the reason they could no longer have it on the store.
Again do some research and you’ll see this was a thing and it’s not their fault.
I am so very sorry to have bothered you, buddy. I’d have done research, were I more interested in the topic. I have read what you posted in the past, and thought my memory served, but it has failed me in this instance. At any rate, I wasn’t really trying to blame or put any shade onto deck tracker nor its owners.
You are delusional if you don’t think deck tracker gives you a tremendous advantage over a someone who doesn’t use it.
That being said everybody in the higher rank uses them so… I don’t think it’s a problem. And it’s free so there’s no reason to complain.
Don’t give me that crap ‘‘but it’s not fair we can’t use it on the phone!!!’’
If you main Hearthstone on a phone you’re the biggest casual player there is out there to the point where it shouldn’t even matter whether you win or not.
It undeniably gives a huge advantage, I’d compare it to an aimbot in a FPS: it doesn’t do anything a player can’t, any player can just move their mouse on top of an enemy after all! Hearthstone would be a better game with these trackers outlawed, but alas, they are allowed so officially they’re not cheats.
However, I do have to defend trackers on this: giving “discrimination because not everyone can afford a setup to properly use a tracker” as an anti-tracker argument is absolutely ridiculous.
You shouldn’t compare it to an aimbot. Aimbot is similar to apps that “rig” the card draw for your deck, or automatically presses to computer for botting. Aimbot helps you to do what is necessary to play the game without you needing any skill. Deck tracker is more like a system that scans for players you normally would have a hard time seeing on the computer on a FPS because your eyes can’t focus on all directions, as it gives you information you would have by just looking at the computer but would have a hard time memorizing.
I never use deck tracker and I got to legend 300 early this month. Been legend for 3 months in a row not using a deck tracker which shows that it barely changes the outcome of your game. There is hardly a difference between using one and not using one. The only advantage it gives you is showing which cards are still in your deck compared to your hand. If you can’t keep track of which cards you haven’t played then maybe you should pick an easier game because it’s not difficult unless your deck is all “discover” based cards. A well trained monkey could be taught basic subtraction and understand how many bananas they have left compared to other fruits in their fruit pile.
So because someone can get to Legend without a deck tracker, that means using it doesn’t give you a big advantage ? What kind of argument is that ?
Using your logic, if a StarCraft player can get to Grand Master without map hack, that mean using map hack doesn’t give you significant advantage ?
I’m not saying using map hack in an RTS gives you as much of an advantage as decktracker does but the point is that what you’re using as your argument is no good.
Nobody said it’s impossible to play and climb ranks without deck tracker, what I am saying is that deck tracker gives you a significant advantage over those who don’t use it.
I’m saying this game isn’t rocket science. Most games a deck tracker will provide you with little benefit. Only plus side of deck tracker that I saw was it keeps track of percentages to know what deck you performed better with. Again, something someone could keep track of with a notepad. I mainly play hearthstone on my tablet but if I decide I want to play hearthstone on my pc I have deck tracker installed as well and I don’t find it to be helpful enough where I always feel I should play hearthstone on my PC. It really doesn’t make that big of difference imo. Play 20 games with it and 20 games without it and test it for yourself. Maybe you’re more visually orientated and you find it to be more helpful than I do.
It really depends a lot on the deck you are using, sometimes it is a really significant advantage. I don’t use the deck tracker and over about 50 games with jade druid, I did simply lose about 3 because I didn’t know what my last card was and yeah it wasn’t jade idol, yeah sure I could count, but this takes up a lot of space for other thinking.
I do use the tracker to update my card collection in web browser form and sometimes I forget to turn it off. So in the few times where I have forgotten to turn it off I’ve seen in other situations it can tell you exactly how many outs you have, I have used it in this way when I did use it a few times to try it out, because I figured others were using it, then I realized that knowing that if I use this tutor will give me a 40% chance to win was kind of too much information and I decided I wouldn’t use it ever again out of fairness.
It’s not quite like saying someone is using a auto-aimer in a fps, but it is like they are using a tool to adjust for recoil. It’s that variance between me thinking I have 3 or 5 cards in my deck, in some ways I forget one card might help me.
deck trackers seem to be the “deadly boss mods” of hearthstone. except in wow raiding and dungeons are designed around dbm. as arena is balanced around having gladius and cooldown trackers.
If I think I have 30% chance without using the tracker and then I actually have a few more cards in there that can help and it bumps me up to 50% chance, then there is a chance I didn’t use my tutor card that turn, I instead played something else. It changes how I play by a long mile.
The only thing is most people don’t play decks that require much knowledge and people are still even playing kind of badly all the way up til high diamond, myself included sometimes (I often see my own misplays moments later).
it does because it is often a choice to draw or play other cards. It’s about the only choice you make in this game and I’d fairly say the tracker provides a method that removes all thinking from that process.
