i was under 10k before i stopped spamming standard ladder, but tbh my main idea was trying to get giants early since i wasn’t able to put down everything must go like what this deck used to do before this patch, my main idea to put pressure is to use griftah/ speaker stomper early in the board as well with breakdance. as for counting lethal i have no problem with it i even had to use backstab on my own sandbox scoundrel to be able to play another 0 scoundrel to put down oracle for lethal, it’s just getting the win condition that i am struggling. with druid i wasn’t able to use incindius as win condition since if i put down incindius for 1 turn i might afraid they might clear that up next turn by zilliax, but if i shadowstepped it and have to wait for next turn i might not be able to survive after dungar
Hey now missing lethal is a fundamental hearthstone skill.
Time is what separates most people between the top 500 and platinum, people with 70% win rate who don’t bother grinding because they have other jobs to do and no time to grind.
I’ve lost count of the people this month who said they don’t bother even going legend because they get bored playing.
Yep, you would easily be top 1k if you only had more time.
I’ve lost count of the people who keep talking like this. If you play well enough to be top 1k, you enter legend at top 1k. If you enter legend at 20k+, the issue isn’t time. There is a legitimate skill gap between platinum and top 500 and saying otherwise is silly.
Ask any of the top 1k players here - time isn’t the factor.
Yes, the difference between 20k and top 50 is literally like comparing the size of the solar system to an atom. Rank is logarithmic so this is why the difference is so massive between 4-5 digit ranks and 2 or 1 digit ranks-- climbing from rank 40 to rank 20 for example would take like 10 wins in a row, which is the same as climbing from 1k to 200 for example.
The more you rank up, the more skill opponents have which skill checks you and lowers your win rate to a rank where you should be.
Also it is safe to say that with massive time investment comes learning more about the game and getting better at it. So playing a lot increases your skill, which helps you climb to higher ranks. This is different than just being a higher rank simply because you play a lot.
Do we need to pull up that sludgelock clip again?
I don’t think you have any business coaching anyone.
Sorry that I hurt your feelings with the truth (and whoever upvoted you). You will never be right by pure mathematical reality anyway. Some people just don’t play more than you and they are better than you.
Keep denying it, you only deny fundamental and very basic mathematics.
My god dude stop talking about stats and maths, you demonstrate time and again that you know close to nothing of either.
And shake off this ego, it won’t do you any favors. You aren’t close, even remotely, to anyone playing in top1000. You were arguing tooth and nail just a week ago that cutting Wayfarer from libram pala is for losers.
No one is going to deny that playing 24/7 will help your rank, but this is not what is keeping you from top500 rank. Or me, for that matter. Being humble and admitting you’re a noob with a lot to learn is a prerequisite to… you know, learn.
Sorry that your feelings are keep being hurt. The authority fallacy of the credentialism of your rank was never an argument; it is not an argument; it will never be an argument.
Sorry but you’re talking with someone who only accepts logic as an argument.
You are the only one that brought up rank to say that the only difference between you and someone at top500 is how much they play.
And you are wrong. You are not rational, you are the very embodiment of a peak Dunning-Kruger.
And why would I be hurt. I am not top500. The only thing that hurts here is reading appallingly dumb stuff like this.
Yea I think you are right.
I was playing the deck and getting good results, but I was also seeing how bad a deck it could be in certain contexts/metas. Basically anything that can do chip damage from hand while buffing their own lifetotal to absurd amounts insta-wins vs this deck, as along as they can deal with 1 or 2 swing turns (of giants most likely.)
By no means was I saying its a bad deck. But I think its bait to think its a deck that is well-rounded and can beat everything out there (with decent draw and good play.) For me its more important I play a deck that is well rounded (so I know my time-invested to learn the deck is not wasted based on the whims of the meta.) I hate investing time learning situationally good decks (which this seems to be.)
That said, this deck keeps popping up as a top contender, so maybe metas just naturally funnel into a steady state where this type of deck IS good, so there is no real need to worry about over-investing into this deck.
Nice strawman. I wasn’t talking about myself but I just said the plain reality that a lot of players would easily go deep into legend but they just don’t play enough.
It’s you who took it personally.
You said time is what separates ‘most’ people in Platinum from top500. I think it was pretty obvious that you include yourself among ‘most’. If you consider yourself worse at this game than most people then I offer my sincere apologies. That’s a humble view to have and will surely help you improve.
And no, I don’t take it personally, you literally alluded to me by responding to Neon (who also didn’t mention you), that him and anyone upvoting were hurt by truth and ‘denying basic mathematical fact’.
Since it’s also quite tiring to see you constantly bring up math and stats as if you knew anything about them to back really silly arguments (talk about fallacious argumentation), I think it was time to respond accordingly. Sorry if that hurt.
I suggest you argue with less arrogance next time, you’ll instigate more productive conversations.
It’s fine I just faced another dungar druid again 1 win and 1 loss, my main strat was to play stomper for tempo at critical turn and followed up by playing incindius over and over and over, when I was finally able to win I realized after playing like 3 incindius I followed up with Sonya scoundrel and 2 incindius let it stick with 1 turn and use oracle in the following turn. But both of my games the druid players weren’t lucky since they didn’t have dungar until turn 13. I know this deck does seem like grim patron warrior with multiple win conditions. As for my rank I was a returning player with a demanding job I couldn’t afford to play that much, mostly just play like 1hr on weekdays so enough to get 2-5 matches, but I was able to get legend last season by November the 2nd when It was on weekend. I did spent 6 hrs playing hearthstone though.
Take a look in the mirror. Nobody started talking personally here but you.
It doesn’t matter even if I’m the worst or the best player in the universe.
Some players just don’t play that much to even go deep into Legend.
If that reality threatens you it’s not me who caused it.
Dungar druid is a one trick pony deck, if you aren’t facing him you aren’t really winning against the deck, your winning by pure RNG lol.
That’s the equivalent of you drawing all your minions and none of your draw cards as rogue.
The threats are not just dungar I think around 10 mana they got eonar factory assembly bot turn as well which happened to me, eonar yoggsaron or eonar stargazer spells. So they are quite reliable after getting 10 mana.
Dungar needs to come down turn 5, 6, 7 the latest to be effective. If not you most likely lost as druid. Something like a 30 or 40 percent drop in winrate if it doesn’t come down until turn ten or later.
The point of dungar is that it drops so much so early nothing in the game can really deal with it. If your not taking advantage of this you might as well not play dungar
It seems to me like you were addressing people personally here, don’t you think?
Moving the goalpost now, are we? We started from ‘Time is what separates most people between the top 500 and platinum’ - an incredibly silly thing to say - to: ‘some players could be top500 but don’t play enough to be’, which is an obvious fact.
What are you even trying to say lol threatened by what? This conversation hurts my brain.
Anyways, whatever. I said what needed saying and that’s enough for me.
Also because it sets up Hydration Station.