I have dusted every wild card. And for me duels will still be a fun mode to play. if i think i need any card, i will do what i do in standard (craft it)
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Same reason why we donât have full access to all cards when we are playing constructed
The point is that not everyone has to be competitive in this mode.
When you dust wild cards, you do that to stay competitive in standard ladder; do you want to be competitive in wild? You shall craft some wild cards. Do you want to be competitive in duels? Same.
This is a point that I donât really understand: a game evolves in time, itâs not a strange thing. We should be happy that they added a new mode that has potential to be dynamic and not stale.
There are people with no wild cards, but there are people with no standard cards as well; I doubt that a âonly standard playerâ or a ânew playerâ has access to all standard cards.
The fact that you can also play wild cards doesnât make it unfair to people who donât have them nor to people who had them but decided to dust them
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How are we on equal footing if you dusted all your wild cards for dust and more card generation and I didnât for many years?
You get all the free cards that I purposefully planned to keep for future modes like this and you get all that free dust?
Nah.
People like me have been telling people like you for years not to dust your wild cards. Itâs your own fault. You got the dust, I didnât. I played it safe, you didnât.
The only way this is âfairâ is if Blizzard gives you every wild card free and then does the same for me and then gives me all the dust of all those cards I saved.
And guess what? They would never do that. They would lose millions of dollars instantly. No need for me to buy the next 4 expansions as I have so much dust I can literally craft them.
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While Iâm happy you have the resources to craft cards every time this new modeâs allowed cards rotates, many and perhaps most players do not. I also think we need to look at why wild cards in rotation are being utilized here. Itâs to heavy handedly make players who might wish to participate purchase wild packs (at the same cost as current packs, I believe). And old adventures cannot be purchased with gold, alas.
Finally, those filthy wild dusters get punished
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I am âmany and perhaps most playersâ. I havent spend a single penny on this game. In orther to play those deck that i like, i need to dust every single card that i think i wont use. I still have a lot of fun and i dont even play meta decks, i like to manage my resourse and build my collection with those things that i got. As i said if there is card that i really want to have in duels, then i will go to my collection look for those a couple of cards that i dont use, dust them and get the card that i want.
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My point is, many players do not have âcards they donât useâ to dust. You can see this as a problem (one you thankfully donât suffer from) or you can find it okay for Blizzard to encourage in this way, players to purchase packs. It is a business after all. I donât care much for this particular business practice, however. I wouldâve preferred a more inclusive, new game mode.
And honestly this wonât be a problem for me, either, once the new expansion launches as I will be opening over 130 packs. Thatâs a lot of dust. But I still do care for those in another predicament, and without the finances to do what I do.
Except that wild players lose.
They not had extra dust to do whatever they wanted for YEARS and how exactly you think any wild player would have to fill that gap if they wanted to play both standard and wild?
MONEY
So youâre asking blizzard to tell to wild players.
"Know that money you used buying packs from our older sets?
It is literal junk to us.
And by junk we mean that they have exactly 0 value and therefore we are giving those cards for free in any other mode and the dumb you that did choice to still support us during all those years gonna be the one having exactly 0 benefit from it."
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Not every new thing should be as free to play friendly as BG. And thats ok, the core game is far to be easy as a âfree to play playerâ. But if you are going to play HS as a âfree to play playerâ you have to accept that it will be challege. And to be honest, for me part of the fun is to work araund with those things that i got, which are not that much as a âfree to play playerâ.
I am those in another predicament. And let me tell you, dont worry for me. I will do just fine in Standard and in Duels, and many others will do as fine as i, even if right now they dont feel that.
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Would you consider arena mode to render the cards it allows players to use, âjunk?â
The different ones from you will play slowly, or definitely buy ⌠because it is addictive.
Could you rephrase that, please? I am having trouble understanding.
Iâm glad you are having fun as a free-to-play player. After all, this game is advertised as free-to-play. However, it clearly is free-to-play-unfriendly. Itâs contradictory in the way the game actually functions.
Also, I am not worried for you. Youâve stated clearly enough that you have the ability to simply dust unneeded cards to craft any cards you may feel you need. I am concerned, rather, for players that both want to play duel mode yet are unable to dust cards in their collection or to purchase cards.
How mich dust did they got? They had an advantage .
Play arena>get an average of 6>keep playing until u have dust gold to buy packs and craft cards.
Who had an advantage?
Why would I do that?
Ppl who dusted wild cards.
To get the missing cards . Since arena dont req a card colection they can blame blizzard for dusting their wild cards.
I donât have the money nor likely skill to turn a profit from arena, unfortunately.
And how did people who dusted wild cards have an advantage?
About the new expansion to which you will open your packages, if it is real at least.
Other than that, there will still be people who will not be able to buy or spend money.
if you donât understand, I will have to quote phrases from short stories.
At the very least (but even so having full card access is still better) they should offer 3 starter deck options (in addition to the option to build your own) like in the more recent PvE Dungeon Runs. Good decks, not with some inferior cards on purpose.
This would at least alleviate the problem somewhat: players picking a starter deck would still be at a disadvantage (no matter how top-tier theyâre built, everyone has different opinions on what cards are best and would swap some cards for others if they could), but now everyone has a decently fair chance.
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The starting deck is going to be the worst part of that mode anyway.
Making it standard or giving people access to all cards wonât change that it will be:
- stale once released and only optimal starting decks are used
- incredibly difficult to balance, since you canât buff and nerf cards used in multiple other modes.
Nothing about dungeon runs or heists ever demanded a hand crafted starter deck for gameplay purposes â the entire point of the game mode is build as you go. They should get rid of the constructed element and either:
- 15 card arena draft
- 15 card dungeon run style bucket draft
- have starter decks just like heist
All of these are incredibly easy for blizzard to balance by just modifying what is in buckets, chance of getting them, and in the case of (3) just changing out the starting cards. And there is no illusion of âconstructed varietyâ which is going to be incredibly low variance â unless people with different collection sizes are getting subpar substitutions and blizzard wants them to buy more packs to fix that.
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I will have an advantage over players unable to spend the money I had, yes. If you think I am lying about what I had purchased, okay.
Iâve stated as much. And if you wish to quote short stories, please, do. The way in which you phrased your initial statement did not make sense, sorry. Perhaps, you should read some short stories.