I’m really tired of imbue, and Quest mage is a joke.
When this game started, Mage had burn, freeze, secret, and spell damage.
Now every other class has those, and mage gets stuck with psuedo-pally effects.
Give mage a spell damage deck that isn’t no minion.
('cause no one needs to be put through that again.)
Give mage a tempo deck that isn’t token trash.
Give them a real secret deck again.
Really tired of seeing every other class play mage better than mage does.
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Yeah, I would like class identity to make a return too. I think this is not only a mage issue. I made a thread about that months ago, when the best Demon Hunter deck was Hero Power Druid. Today I look at Starship DK and it feels like “Warrior but good” Priest went from a control to an aggro and midrange class, similar to Hunter. (And uses some Hunter cards more effectively than Hunter.)
The whole game seems out of whack.
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No we can’t.
You are free to play Hunter for burn decks.
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Maybe, after all these years, branch out to other classes when you’re tired of mage. Or take a break from the game.
Just kidding. Stay funny ol’ Mal, please!
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This isn’t world of warcraft. You don’t have to grind for days before you can even play mage. You can play any class in full.
What is even the special attribute of mage other than psychology? Eg play spell druid and you have another “mage”.
Itssss not the sammeeeee 
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It’s hogwash that we haven’t had anything that passes for a classic mage deck since at least Badlands, (if even that.)
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That’s rather self contradicting, since tokens are one of the most consistent ways to establish tempo. Heck, back in the day almost everybody, including tempo mage that you wax on about so often, was mostly token, because a) there weren’t enough class cards for a full deck, so people ran neutral minions, and b) back then “cuvestone” was very much a thing so people want to run minions so they have tokens to play early and often.
Even after a few expansions and you got something like tempo secret mage, it worked because it had minions that synergizes with secrets.
There’s actually a standard elemental mage deck right now that’s very close to classic non-secret tempo mage. Instead of mirror image for taunts they run the neutral elemental taunt. Instead of freezes it’s got more fire spells for burn. Not the best deck in the meta but it does its job as a tempo deck.
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Mal won’t be happy unless mage is the best deck in the meta. Maybe not even then.
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Yeah, I’m aware of the ele deck. (mediocre)
Why are hunter, druid, and rogue better spell casters than mage?
And be honest, they have been for years now.
And since when is creating 1/1 tokens anything but a pally trait ?
It’s literally their hero power.
And what is wrong with wanting a return to fundamentals?
They are what made this game popular in the first place.
And why you are coming for me for asking?
That’s the question I really want an answer for.
It has been ages, since mage played like mage, and you know it.
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Since when is being a better tank than a Warrior a Mage trait?
It sounds like you want Mage to be a better “Jack-of-all-trades” than Druid is!
they should do a year of the mage
where every class gets new mage like cards except mage
Here you go, Mal:
If I can get 10 wins in the H brawl with this tempo/burn list, while drunk off my rocker, I am sure you can do better, as a Mage main.
Now look for more excuses!
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You are actually making my case for me. mage should not have armor beyond the one spell it has always had.
“Glass Cannon” That is what mage is supposed to be.
I have no idea who’s inspiration “armor mage” was.
And what is so awful about wanting a return to traditional play?
I never said you cannot win with mage.
But you cannot run any of the traditional decks mage started with, nor have you been able to for along time.
That was the point and one you keep overlooking to pretend i am claiming mage is weak, or needs special treatment.
Its just freeze Mage on steroids though, so you both want and dont want the same deck?!?
Pls explain.
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Can you run traditional control warrior? C an you run traditional Face Hunter?
Nope, you cant. They have evolved. Just like Mage has.
You dont need to like it, you do need to accept it!
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No, you keep cherry picking only the points that you can attack.
Mage should not be an armor class.
It should be a spell heavy burn, control, and tempo class.
ie: spell damage, secrets, hp, burn from hand.
I’m done debating this, because asking for a return to fundamentals should not be a debate.
You are either in favor or you aren’t.
Why you would be against it is anyone’s guess.
But you do you.
Since when?
From classic Mage was a DEFENSIVE class, relying on Ice Block/Barrier to be competitive in the competitive scene.
These unicorn tempo/burn decks WERE NOT USED, competitively, in classic, Mal. Only Freeze Mage was.
Prove me wrong!
I am against it because your recollection of HS history is, to put it bluntly, wrong!
There was no secret mage in classic, for example. Mage only had a singular Secret support card at that time, KTM, and it was mediocre at best. Yet you believe Secret Mage was a thing from the start? No, you are simply misremembering reality.
its the rose-tinted glasses thing.
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How about instead you tell me why a return to burn from hand, or spell damage, or secret mage is something you don’t want?
That seems just as fair as your constant sidebars, as it is actually pertaining to topic?