This bourbon tonight is for you, cheer!
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Right there with you. I was 29 when D1 came out.
I play a minimalist version of D4. I do not pick up loot, not even legendary. The only thing the game does for you, that you don’t have to waste time on, is picking up legendary items. The game automatically puts them in your stash if you “miss” them. Since obols auto-pickup, I wait for my 755 obols to fill up and go shopping. I reroll a stat a max of 3 times. I don’t do renown on purpose. For season 1, I haven’t been in a dungeon.
I got one sorc to 100 this way and my second is almost 80. The combat is well done (other than what you mentioned when you push button and the character does nothing). The game has so many balance issues that not leveling glyphs and missing 20 paragon is barely noticeable. I am sure it would be pushing NMDs. Just playing a character to ~80 and starting another is actually pretty fun this way. It avoids most of the rage inducing design.
This how I can enjoy the game and feel I got my monies worth, by engaging in only the parts I find fun. Legion events, world bosses, hell tides, and select grim favors in zones I enjoy. I like the desert best. I ignore the rest. If nothing is up I want to do, I log out for a bit, and check back later.
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Whatever people say about D3’s launch, it wasn’t as bad as this one. Yea sure, the errors making the game unplayable for a little bit combined with the loss of the RMAH were bad, but overall, that game had me playing for awhile even if I spent all my time on the eternal side of the game. One of the main reasons I kept playing was because I could mix and match abilities with ease, something that just doesn’t exist in D4.
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Been playing Diablo since the original in 1997, and whether some folks believe it’s possible or not, I do in fact enjoy D4 while simultaneously being capable of seeing its flaws, though I’m sure there’d be some disagreement as to what they are, but bro…if you’re not enjoying the game, don’t waste your time on it. There are so many great new games out there these days, especially the last year or two. Sometimes our tastes and perceptions change. Sometimes we just don’t have the patience for certain gameplay anymore. You’ll spend more on electricity trying to capture something that doesn’t seem to appeal to you than you did on the game. Just dip out and if the game changes down the line and it regains some of its luster for you, come back and give it another go. As it is, you’ll own it forever anyway. 
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Have you played the Torchlight series? Off topic but If you haven’t expanded outside of Diablo that’s probably why you’re still clinging.
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yeah torchlight 3 has like 100 players. torchlight died after 2
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yep.
They need to fix itemization.
Couple ideas:
- fixed statrolls, literally just remove all the BS.
- fixed rerollsystem/ costs.
- Legendaries should be better than rares give them higher itemlevel/ more upgrade levels, there needs to be a point where you dont have to pickup/search through every rare you find anymore. Found Legendaries should be better than upgraded rares in the end.
- make higher itemlevel items better items again. (cant be that a 100 itemlevel higher item has the same stats, currently high itemlevel only matters on weapons)
- let harder content drop higher itemlevel items.
- make it possible to “soak” every aspect into the codex with highest roll found, so you can always reapply the highest roll you’ve found and dont have to waste so much stashspace for items that only function as Aspect Spenders.
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Well written post.
The only reason they slow down the game to that extent, as you said, is to have the metrics to show to the shareholders, fun was never in their vision, it’s painfully obvious.
Before the industry will change, these studios need to hurt bad, to bleed money or potential customers.
Even though Baldur’s Gate 3 is a totally different type of game from Diablo 4, it has demonstrated to the entire world that one hand, it’s still possible for studios to make excellent games, and on the other hand, by making a great game, people will want to buy it, play it, tell their friends, leave good reviews, praise it, and in turn get others to buy and play their game.
Hope this will become a turning point for Blizzard, someday.
You don’t owe them your time, you don’t want like what they’re doing, vote with your time, give your time to something you love.
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I’m not so sure about that. Fair hypothesis, and it could be the case for the OP, but I’ve played Titan Quest, Torchlight I and II, PoE, Grim Dawn, Umbra, Lost Ark and a couple other less popular ARPGs over the years. They all have their own flavor and interesting contributions to the genre, but at least speaking for myself, it’s always been impossible for me to shake off Diablo. I think part of it is the place the series has in many of our memories, but also because it’s one of the only ARPGs with a budget worth mentioning and a world that anybody actually cares about.
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lol Shaking off Diablo is hard I bought this game knowing it would be a rough ride with free to play models that shouldn’t have ever been there.
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Yeah, I played the October beta, so I knew what was up (apart from the Shop). It’s passable enough for me to hang in there for the improvements, but it should have come out a good year later than it did. I’m more irritated by QoL stuff than anything else to be honest. I’m glad my games list for this year is absolutely stacked though, otherwise I might take it harder like some of you guys have. 
P.S. If they really do just drive it into the ground over the next year and a half or so, I’ll be playing PoE2. 
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Nop if you read it again, You DONT own the game, you OWN a LICENSE!
If Blizz decides tommorow to close the servers you own a jack…
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I almost worded that differently just because I knew some joker would end up saying something like that. 
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All this words to just say Im wrong?!?.. need a cookie?
Who said you were wrong? Is this just how you have fun here? Have a good night, man.
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Well thought out post OP, nailed it. I will not be handing this company anymore of my money unless microsoft turns it around which is doubtful.
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I really miss the simplicity of itemization from D2 and D3. Too many different stats and no room to store these items.
They could at least make the inventory for extracted aspects infinite or even remove them at all and just add them to the codex (accessible to all chars).
Impossible to play more than one class during a season due to limited, 100% shared storage room. The recently added stash tab didn’t really make things better which was just a compensation for the seasonal hearts.
But to be fair, D3 also had garbage itemization the first months after release and after every patch it became better until its perfect state.
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I couldn’t agree more with you. It’s like now that I’m older I can see the trap clearly made by the development. It’s to keep me in game and slow moving forward. The problem is that the rewards aren’t enough to keep me doing it!
I agree with the others that said to stop if you can stop playing. I did for a couple weeks and yesterday I went into the eternal realm to tinker with a barbarian I never leveled. I played for maybe an hour or so and then decided that was enough. It was just enough time not to bother me much.
What’s sad is that I enjoy the tinkering with builds and skills but this game makes even wanting to tinker with those a drag. The cost for upgrading items is far too high. Having to unlock waypoints again. Come on, this is my 7th character. I don’t need to do this again. World bosses spawn far to low of an amount.
If you happen to read this I’d like you to let us know what game you end up playing because I would bet your review of it would be accurate for me as well. Meaning, we would both likely enjoy the game you go to next.
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Yeah man, I feel bad for the audio team and environment artists, because those are beautiful. I’m really impressed with the background sound effects, shamans tapping their staves, stuff like that.
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OP, I can really only speak for myself, but I would guess that this is pretty much the consensus of the majority of people that play this game. As for myself I’m just using it for what it is, a time sink, until Starfield or something else comes along. I do hope things eventually improve, and will be very suprised if anything much happens in the near future. There’s only so much that they can do with what they’ve got to work with. In the meantime, I guess I’ll slog along a little longer at least when I’m not doing something that’s more fun like mowing the lawn or washing the car in 95 degree heat.
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