Wow, that was extremely dissapointing

Well maybe because those d2 “veterans” all claim they’ve been playing for 20 years (technically correct, 2 hours every month skipping years) and still think game was hard on hell wheeze.

:joy::rofl: best post ever.

Again-again, if people want to instigate a conversation about lore and story it would really be to their benefit to get things right in the first place.

Tristram is not where you start.
The Butcher appears in every game but Diablo 2. We fight Overlords (weird D3 retcon where Butchers are a different species now) that are close to that, the Smith and Hephasto.
Lesser Evils bear significance even though they’re not Prime Evils themselves.
Caldeum is not visited until Diablo 3.
“You fight all kinds of things, including angels” - Technically correct even plural because of Izual and some lore I forgot about Hephasto the Armorer, but I still have to wonder if the OP was thinking that Oblivion Knights, Burning Souls, or Finger Mages were corrupt or fallen angels. Otherwise angels only show up en masse as enemy types in Act 4 of Diablo 3 and then as Reapers in Reaper of Souls.

It’s like if I wanted to wax poetic about, I dunno, Barbarian balance and class design from Diablo 2 but I start talking about stuff like Ground Stomp, Hammer of the Ancients, and Earthquake.

I think even people that skip dialogue would at least take note eventually of what proper nouns happen where through enough repetition.

Yep. Both the main game and the expansion are so low impact and uninteresting in the scope of Diablo lore and overall game quality compared past entries. The story beats are largely just you trailing around and praising or re-assuring various PoC.

Game is fun. Story is standard Blizz garbo. Thank god it is skippable after one suffering.

The story was underwhelming. Don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying the game. But the story was a filler and not a great one at that. After all the hype I really expected a very dark story with exciting cut scenes (they weren’t too bad though) and a massive ending. The only part that I really enjoyed was the very last cinematic. That felt dark and foreboding.

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It sounds like you never really played d2

You have brain damage

In act 4 you went to the pandemonium fortress not heaven

Fixed

We did fight mephisto

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This is a case of misunderstanding. “remember a small handful of proper nouns” =/= “remember to use proper nouns”.

Overall, up until this point at least, KingOmelette isn’t being trollish, he’s in fact sympathetic to your post - he just offered a few minor corrections. Since there are many of them (he listed a few) the only reasonable response is “yeah, oops - but glad you agree on gist of the topic”.

Disordered thoughts are best kept in the skull & allowed to simmer. Brush up on details you want to mention (since your memory isn’t very good on those details), and don’t be offended when your errors are pointed out. If it were a troll pointing them out, they’d use it to ‘disprove’ your thesis. KingOmelette used it to help you tighten it up. (Eventually.)

If you can’t tell the difference, you contribute little to the cause by posting such complaints (since you get derailed by any corrections, even friendly). Don’t you agree? We want our best arguments forward; and emotionally defending Swiss cheese memberberries don’t help none.

Come on bros. Shoulder to shoulder against the beast of mediocrity that is corporate storytelling. :crossed_swords: :shield: :crossed_swords: :shield:

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No it sure as hell was not…

Someone posted a chatgpt prompt asking it to design an expansion for D4 and I’ll be real… it sounded 10000000x cooler than what we got. It even included a shadow themed class that also sounded cool instead of “garbage aesthetic monk”

ya that was me. look at the user name next time

The point being… D2 story was 100x better than anything that has come since. And not having Mephisto as the expansion boss for VoH was an enormous let down. So Glad that I did not buy it.

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This is fact.

It’s tricky to assert, bc visuals have come a long way since, and some voice actors in D3/D4 are roughly on par with what we had back then (but not the soap opera rough-drafts they’re given to read).

But in all the categories that matter most, overall D2 story/presentation is pinnacle of the series, with D1 punching way above its weight class considering almost no cinematics.