Here is my big problem, I allready love diablo IV. and im an active player in diablo III…
Sadly in diablo 3 bot users (respect for exceptions) dominating leader board. What is the situation about that?
As basically it is poinless for no bot users to play diabloIII. as it is not possible to compete with bot users on leaderboard. In D3 not even an option to report bots, wich is basicly means bots are free to use.
I do understand D3. is not matters anymore, clearly D4 will kill D3. I mean only players whoos not able to afford D4 (meant to buy or have no compatible hardver) will stay with D3.
Is there will be any action about the bot users? Meant it more like to prevent the usage of bots.
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If you cant make it to the leaderboards in diablo3, you probably wont be able to do it in diablo iv either. Skill issue.
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Unfortunately, blizzards bot and cheat detection has always been severely lacking.
Their enforcement against it has been slow and ineffective.
We can hope it’s changed, or that they will be doing something different, but history has shown us they won’t (or really can’t, to be honest).
It’s a war they just can’t win, and seems like unless faced with the most basic and obvious bots, have just tossed in the towel.
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yea but to be fair, leaderboards in diablo3 are a meme, its ridiculous how easy it is to get onto them, without any bots cheats or whatever. Most people playing are just to lazy to grind, putting a couple of hundred hours of effort into it, or lacking knowledge/skill.
Lets f.e. take Wudijo, he had seasons where he grinded #1 Solo with almost every class with rather low Paragon.
Its just a stigma, an excuse for being bad. “The botters will win anyways”. When everyone knows those poeple are getting erased from the leaderboards at the end of the season anyways.
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I agree. The downside is the botters using the bots to gear and paragon push the average players off that potentially could make it if the botters weren’t botting.
There’s no rewards for topping them so they don’t matter, I get that entirely, but at the same time I can see how knowing that you’re so close and not making it if that’s a goal you have because there are people who ACTUALLY play less and bot is frustrating.
It’s not hard to make it, but the people that care probably play significantly less than those of us who do get up on it every season, and we really don’t care lol. Naturally there is skill involved and that’s an issue, but I can understand where they are coming from.
Yea, but if you play D3 season for 200hours or more in a somewhat efficient manner, Items/gear isnt an issue.
After 200hours or even earlier, nothing could potentially drop that would increase the powerlevel of your character by any significant amount anymore.
Same goes for Paragon, 3k Paragon is easily reachable for everyone that just plays efficient enough. At 3.4k Paragon u might experience that it will get a little harder to level up.
Which might be enough to get a good rank. RNG decides, its all about the right rift, played correctly.
I mean poeple wouldnt complain that they cant reach global elite in csgo within 3month with only 1hour of playtime per day either, and if they do its all bc of the “cheaters”, ofc.
People have to put actual effort into a game to reach a high level. And especially Diablo3 casual players are somewhat delusional about that.
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it is not about can not make it, it is about what for?
My main DH got fairly over 5 mill dmg nearly perfect stat items (i just changed stats in items from dmg to surviveability)but as im not going with meta builds and exploits i have struggles from gr 130. Yes it would be the paragon what would get me forther, but What i can bring up for example about this. To on the first week i reached 1000 paragon i played 16+hours dayly (yes i have no life) But I got extremly dissapointed when i allready seen (and i mean it on the first week of the season) players with 3k paragon. what is obviously inhuman performance. Yes these thing maked me realise to why the heck am i playing? As D3 have only one reason to play to compete others. But you cant as there is no others there is bots.
okay, but seriously you are not playing meta, and are not playing in groups and that is your problem. Its not the bots. Paragon 1000 is literally achievable on day1 of the season with far less playtime than you probably had put into it, its actually low effort, even solo achievable.
So you are playing the game wrong, and blame botters that you do so? How does that make sense? Okay Paragon 3000 not achievable in a week, but paragon 2000, really is. And the difference isnt as huge as u might think it is. its only roughly about 20-30% damage. OR in other words only 1 greater rift level higher clearing potential. And that bothers you? So that poeple do 131 instead of 130 is a big deal?
Let me tell you something, the actual difficulty of a rift can vary over 10 tiers itself.
At a certain point the game is just RNG to get the god rift that magically clears on its own in no time when played correctly.
EDIT: Dont get me wrong im not trying to defend cheaters or botters in any way, they all should go to hell, but you can still achieve things in diablo3 even if you are competing against them. You might not get the Paragon they do, but you can definitely rank yourself and even beat them if you are the better player and/or have better luck while phishing for rifts. (many times proven by maxroll guys that have 100% onstream playtime with no room for cheating or botting)
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Hi Looreen.
I will only share my opinion.
I think the bots exists due to the lack of real players like you and me.
Same problem happen in Starcraft II.
I think if bots didn’t exist, real players would deal with long waits to start a multiplayer game and this happens with games that are no longer popular as before.
If bots werent exist > real players complain about long waits
If bots exist > real players complain about bots
So, I think we are dealing with the less bad option.
SAVE ME FROM TRASHTALK PLEASE,
It is not about leader board it is about the abuse of bots. wat makes me feel pointless to work on my character.
And i would like to ask a moderator to warn this pointless trashtalker please!
I bet he is a bot user!
would you elaborate how bots affect you in any way if its not about leaderboards? Do you experience server queue times?
I mean you cant be serious that you have less fun seeing people with higher paragon. Is that the argument? Do i miss a crucial point in your argumentation?
thought it is about leaderboards.
And no, ive never used a bot, you can actually take a look into my profile im pretty low paragon with pretty low/average playtime. Most seasons i didnt even play for more than a week. Never had goals, just enjoyed playing with friends, getting new builds working, enjoyed season theme a little and then quited. Only in a couple of seasons i really tried/cleared GR150. First season ive even attempted to push was probably the season when GoD set came out, such a fun set (before nerfs tho)
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Maybe, but i do not really care about multiplayer, in diablo 3 from my point the only reason why I coop is to finish bounties faster. i did all my farming lvling in solo.
Ohh and I boosted low lvl players.
Lets see than the long waiting times and ban bot users.
There is no way to bots are benefitial for the community. That is a digested bullfood!
I would point it out to as I see, because i get dissapointed ad it is takes my mood to grind the paragon levels when I see players whoos clearly useing bots wont get banned.
What is the problem with these peoples whoos calling me out for coplain about bots?
Im not noob and not a female (the name is because thet was the first thing what get into my mind when i registered and there is no option to change it)
I pointed out what effects have bot users to other players and hope D4 wont be like that. But hey if im a noob because i just can not compete with bots, than i have no any good words towards you guys. This is a perfect example why i do hate the human specie.
You say no but call me noob. OMG this was my last time when i checked this forum as it`s worthg nothing. see ya
Nobody is calling you a noob or anything. And your point of view is actually quite interessting and useful feedback.
There seems to be a psychological effect happening when you see people reaching paragons that are humanly not possible to achieve / or faster than you can achieve them within a certain time frame/window, which for game designers is definitely interessting feedback.
Even tho this artficial number “Paragon” might not affect your rankings or rankings of others in the leaderboard to the extend you think its going to, you feel “affected”, “cheated” and “disencouraged” to progress your own char/acc further.
So please stay calm, forums are here to discuss. And to get your point of view more detailed im asking questions, nothing more. Im not your enemy, im just trying to discuss.
You guis are being to naive. Blizard is slow and lacking in their “battle” against bots because they make quite a nice profit by banning them in mass but with huge intervals between bans.
Here is my big problem, I allready love diablo IV. and im an active player in diablo III…
Sadly in diablo 3 bot users (respect for exceptions) dominating leader board. What is the situation about that?
As basically it is poinless for no bot users to play diabloIII. as it is not possible to compete with bot users on leaderboard. In D3 not even an option to report bots, wich is basicly means bots are free to use.
I do understand D3. is not matters anymore, clearly D4 will kill D3. I mean only players whoos not able to afford D4 (meant to buy or have no compatible hardver) will stay with D3.
Is there will be any action about the bot users? Meant it more like to prevent the usage of bots.
Bots are super crazy right now. They’re harder to detect with people running programs from an entirely different PC, it’s actually kind of crazy. I am genuinely worried about gaming as a whole. The world is about to get even crazier over the next few years for a multitude of reasons. I’m excited and terrified.
they need to ask for a pic of you holding a photo id, then mail you a code for proof of address, (and a drop of blood), and then have an AI that looks at apm and such to detect and ban botters, and never allow that person back on any of there games.
OR.
this >> Bring Back The Auction House
well theyve been slacking cauz the current d3 ladders are ezpz to get onto 
Every game has bots. Get used to it.
i have a feeling the day is not too far when some AI warden could easily detect botting just from habbits/playstyle. just a matter of time. then ban them daily and get more box sales! win/win
No need to do all that as long as you write your own driver’s. OCR is great for that though, and can be from a raspberry pi.