Why I'm Not Playing Diablo 4 - A Frustrating Trade Perspective

I agree with everything you said

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if the suggestion thread turns into PvP zone by diehard fanboys, then we know the suggestion is good and valid.

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LOl yet another hurt fanboy/girl retorting ending with the same nonsense such as “which is nice I guess “and “goodbye and take care”, just a poor attempt at standard low-grade sarcasm

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im not sure what you are ready there in my response.

I don’t trade I prefer the ssf style of playing.

But an in-game auction house like they had in wow that only uses in-game currency or even an option to trade other items would make sense. Like trading runes for other runes.

People always oppose the idea of an AH because of the connection to real world money but if it was just for in-game gold I don’t see the harm.

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I thought you would be watching, lol , get a job

sorry, i dont normally work on sundays at 3 am.

Do you? if so, my condolences.

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Plus 1 for jus this. This is 100% accurate. Then make all buys bind on purchase. Its AH but better. Or we can just keep using scummy diablo.trade site that runs like molasses.

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for me i loved it on the start , streamers complained , blizz copy pasted things from other games and its fu….. sh.. now more pressing the rectangle buttons rather actually playing if upcoming season will not make me to play more then a day , blizz failed big time whirlwind is sh.. , steelgrasp is sh.., bl is sh.. , shred is sh.. , bonespear is sh… bloodlance is sh… , basically all what was good and nice and we loved from the start now is sh…. and d3 copy paste of WT bruhh i returned the VOH instantly after campaign

Not all of us. The whole point of the game (for me) is to use what I find and adapt my character to it. That’s what’s fun about it to me.

If you buy what you need, or have it given to you, why bother playing at all? Looks like you won’t be, and that seems logical to me. Have fun with whatever you do choose!

Keep posting your feedback and ignore any trolls. There’s nothing wrong with the opening post, it’s quality feedback on a topic many also find frustration with.

We are a long ways, unfortunately, from having the kind of in-game social features this game needs, including trade, but getting this feedback out in the community (even if Blizzard doesn’t directly read it) is a productive thing.

I have no idea what motivates you for posting this crap each time someone comes to forums and does post something other than people like you spamming the same response, whether that be to add to your post count or whether you are one of those who tells people “love it or leave it” kinda moronic phrases on the streets.

How about “good bye and take care” to yourself for each topic which you do not like, that critisizes or suggests solutions or tells why they are not playing, that you keep on spamming, since we seem to be practicing our “love it or leave it” childish tantrum?

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Replying to OP: 11/23/2025

I totally agree with you one million percent, friend. And Last Epoch looks pretty awesome. I am definitely going to try it out.

The Blizzard D4 Team is on serious thin ice at this point and time. They need to get their act together and keep their promises to players because after 2 years of constant broken promises, mass-nerfs and now planning on taking away our rare Mythic gear and game progress Renown from players, which is totally unacceptable for a buggy beta game we all paid for this cannot continue. And you’re totally correct about the awful epic fail trade system in Diablo 4, which I never use or trust, especially since players need to go to some outside third party to buy in game items for game we all paid for and continue supporting with their rip off shameful Battle Pass! This is just a small part of the many bugs, issues and problems Diablo 4 has, with only a few minor things that are good and okay in the game.

Let’s see how things go with Diablo 4 within the next 3 to 6 months, because the frustrations are now reaching the tipping point and Blizzard needs to seriously fix and improve the game, big time, not keep screwing over players and continue the misleading BS for a game we all paid for and now the D4 Team has plans to take away our Rare Mythic gear for the 4th damn time and also take away our game progress Renown for no good reason and without any form of compensation! NOT ACCEPTBALE! NO MORE!

It is a VERY messed up situation because if players knew any of these bad, messed up things were going to happen before buying Diablo IV - 99% to 100% of players would NOT have wasted a penny on this game. D4 Players got totally scammed as it seems now! The bottom line, Blizzard needs to do the right thing because after 2 years of messed up BS taking away rare and hard earned Mythic gear and game progress from players and many broken promises, Blizzard needs to finally fix and improve the game and take it out of buggy beta land because it is long overdue!

My trust for the Diablo 4 Team is at an all time low and if they move forward with taking away our hard earned Mythic gear AGAIN for the 4th time and take away our game progress Renown, that will be the tipping point for the majority of players, myself included, and it will seriously cross the line. This will NOT be taken lightly!

No game I ever played, including Blizzard games, ever took away my rare top gear and game progress! What the hell are these inconsiderate and misleading, promise breaking Devs thinking!??? They can’t even be honest with us! These wrongful actions are NOT OKAY! I hope you’re reading this Blizzard D4 Team because if you cross the line again and screw us players over again, it will be a big mistake because what you have done and are planning to do is NOT OKAY OR ACCEPTABLE AT ALL!!

Even Mike Ybarra, the former President of Blizzard Entertainment said the Diablo 4 Team is on the wrong path and they need to fix and improve the core game above all else, and this same team has been promising players they would do that for over 2 years now and still nothing has been done - other than mass-nerfs, and again, taking away rare Mythic gear from players for the 4th time, and NOW, our Renown game progress as well, but no major core fixes and improvements, just band-aids to mask their empty promises and screwing over players with more deceptive business practices that are now ripping players off with their shameful Battle Pass, as I mentioned many times before.

I have been a Blizzard player / customer for over 21 years, and I never experienced anything as messed up with any Blizzard game or any game for that metter, ever, except when it comes to Diablo IV, and it is just an awful and disappointing experience overall! Blizzard needs to do the right thing and soon, because as I mentioned many times, Blizzard and its Management and the D4 Team can do better, because all D4 Players deserve better NOT get screwed over and mislead! -

That’s my take on this. Thank you for sharing, friend. - JJ -

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What stupid scenario ?, that allowing trade won’t solve issues with the game ? :thinking:

Why do you think it would ? :person_shrugging:

Do you think it would solve balance, grind, lack of gear/fun with T3/T4 phase of the game ?

Even OP has admitted that allowing unlimited trade won’t resolve the problems of D4, you’re just trying to act as some kind of “Merchant man” hero to “save the day” or whatever

Maybe he plays on console?

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They should take a look at Last Epoch.. You can pick an item faction:

1 Circle of Fortune - solo selffound with increased drops and bonuses, no trade allowed

2 Merchants Guild - trading allowed, auctions house usable, no drop buffs from CoF

You can change between these anytime but items dropped solely by cof buffs can’t be traded and items bought via trading can’t be equipped while CoF is active.

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As with just any other aspect of this game, for the Devs, it is all about finding some kind of acceptable compromise. The game works in a multiplayer environment and Devs want interaction between the players. They know trade is an important component of that. But, with many already completing the season in a few days, they can’t afford to shorten even more their experience by making it easier for them to gear their characters.

The result is a half-baked system that can’t fully satisfy anyone…as usual.

A well implemented, fully functional trade system implies reducing the drop rates, as Vic1ouS pointed out but it wouldn’t be acceptable for SSF players.

Devs have been mentioning SSF implementation. I am curious to hear about how they plan on doing it. We already have Hardcore/Eternal/Seasonal. I can’t believe they will separate even more the player base with SSF and Trade.

Do you want the definitive solution to ALL TRADE problems???

Completelly remove trade from the game…

Bonus: There’s no need for SSF anymore… :rofl:

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haha, This is not Wall Street. Insead of trading pixels, Why not trade stocks or buy bonds?

just make everything account bound. trading problem solved.

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