Why does blizzard allow barbs to be immortal....stacking marital vigor

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and what allows him to be invulnerable? in season 5, even Debilitating Roar will be nerfed. Do you know who won’t get nerfed by shouts?

They reduce Debilitating Roar dmg reduction to 40%, it’s inline with Barb’s challenging shout which is 40% too. You know it yourself Debilitating Roar reduction is too high, it needs balance.

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Yes they can, because its a Barb!

to be honest, necro has been doing this since day 0 and no one bats an eye

what? that has nothing to do with barb DR.

that thing is passive, why do you want to increase their DR?

if you want to nerf barb just say it, stop pretending this is the issue.

The correlation is there. Both classes effectively stacking into near perma immunity this patch, next patch sorc has fairly heavy adjustments lined up, while barb does not. Unrelated, all sorcs paragon nodes were capped, while barb got to keep 1 stackable node. This is not stated in the fashion of ‘nerf them too’, rather to point out the differences in the way classes are handled.

Im not defending FS in current state, its cheesy and gimicky and should be adjusted, but so many other things were tweaked in a negative fashion that did not relate to the FS uptime. Even standard affixes for offhands, something only sorc uses, will be significantly nerfed. I dont want these adjustments, and am using satirical obnoxious posting to call attention to the discrepancy that is sorc, as it is the norm on these forums.

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and the fact that it lasts 4 seconds, and not 6, shouldn’t you remember that?
Then in this case, when they buffed Charge, why did they forget about Trample?

And the fact that challenging shout make enemies aggro to the player, make it more risky to use, that 2 sec extra is justified.

You got heal and fortify with Debilitating Roar so…

BALANCE…

as if screaming doesn’t give 20% HP. Plus, it provides a resource. Plus protection on the character, rather than a debuff on the enemy, which is also more convenient.
And what about the charge? also balance?
p.s. I love the defenders of the barbarians, who say about the objective imba that everything is in order, complete balance.

when the druid is delivered what can you do +22 to “iron Fur” or “Vigilance” or "Defensive posture’?

i’ve only 2Points in martial vigor , 50k hp with my barb in still clear 130+ without any difficulty , ppl just don’t know how damage reduction work.