This exactly what I say. If you copy meta builds then complain about the game being too easy then you are a hypocrite. Stop copying the one or two broken builds in the game then get back with me.
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A goodwill assumption, Iâm sure. However, proofâs in the pudding. The sales numbers of the expansion will definitively prove how big or small the true D4 2.0 audience is. For example, I bought the base game but I wonât be buying the expansion. Am I the minority or the majority? No one knows yet.
RoS managed to sell âonlyâ 3 million copies at the time compared to the 30 million (if I recall correctly) of the base game. Hence, no more expansions were released.
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Blizzard might have learned that lesson at least. They were way too fast to abandon D3 after RoS. Even if VoH sells badly, they will probably give it some time to turn around.
I am in the same boat with not buying the expansion. If the game remains at this level of âchallengeâ it just seems like I will not really be interested in playing it too much more. Right now I still need to play Druid to 100 on a season so there is something ânewishâ for me still.
There is nothing wrong with catering to your largest audience. But if I am not in that group, there is likely a better fit elsewhere. A lot of good games coming out.
And it is not like I canât buy it when it is on sale later.
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Hamster.
You were either thinking Hamper or Dumpster in the back of your mind.
Also sorry I actively try not to do that.
I would wager the majority of people playing donât beat all the content. They may get to a point that they are happy with but in almost all games, beating all the content is usually reserved for a single digit percentage of the player base.
I just play games until Iâm bored of them. if thereâs somethin to work towards and itâs engaging, then Ill keep playing. if not, thereâs hundreds of other games out there that I can spend time in. To each their own.
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Its a Canadian thing, eh 
now go eat your patatos
Absolutely. In fact, they need to cater to a specific audience and avoid the fallacy of trying to please everyone.
Personally, I lean towards the assumption they are targeting the minority. I understand it may sound absurd but my speculation is they initially tried to appease the average (Diablo) gamer with launch D4, but due to the backlash they quickly regressed and ran back to the formula they already knew very well with D3, which had a rather small but well established audience.
I donât have any strong feelings on this tbh, itâs just speculation on my part. It may all be wrong in the end of the day 
or not 
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Not Canadian, so no. 
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Challenge in D4, is that actually a thing? There is no challenge here, is just a pure grind fest, that doesnât make the game challenging, just makes it boring past day 2. I would like to read, one thing that make this game challenging.
Youâre very right. Iâve always followed a build but this time around Iâm gonna go for my own build and see how far it takes me. Withvthe new loot system and crafting I think this will be extra fun.
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They released an incomplete and unfinished game
What to expect ?, that people will get satisfied with a game tailored to work for 75/100 levels ?
What then ?, then they decided for us to âtelenovellaâ the last 25 (i.e. last 125 in this case), because of⌠?, yeah
Itâs a mess that they themselves created by releasing an incomplete game
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The word âchallengingâ is always relative to how someone interprets the word.
However, I view it as being able to navigate, adapt and overcome monster attacks and mechanics through skill expression, character growth, experience, and knowledge,.
If you buff skills or gear too much or provide gear/crafting mats too quickly, or scale back monsters too much then you remove opportunity for the player to adapt and overcome. And you donât have the satisfaction that your skill expression, character growth, experience and knowledge mattered.
It doesnât have to be complex like a souls game. Using a very simple exampleâŚâsee that zombie charger over there charging up? Itâs gonna take 3/4 of your health if you donât move. What are you going to do?
The relative part of âchallengeâ come into play here
Me personally, Iâm moving out of the way so I donât have to start my character over. Others will complain itâs simply âover-tunedâ, nerf it (they did). Others will say give us screen clearing abilities so I donât have to worry about it (they did).
Itâs not that zombie charger is a big deal, itâs that you start adding up example after example and for some you lead to a place of:
Me included.
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I donât know but you are kidding yourself if you think the game doesnât frustrate you what with the whole
sure looks like you are getting frustrated and losing it because you canât get what you want out of the game, so lets play less but Iâm not frustrated really
you canât take people that play all day as a work and make it as itâs the majority; ofc itâs gonna be too easy for uneployed people that play 8/10 hours a day, what you expect?
If i dont play at all or i play a whole day. The outcome is the same. Only for option 2 my day is wasted. Ofc i also play for fun, but if this bad joke continues for months then it destroys my mood.
1 i play something else or i go to the gym for a few hours. = no shakoâs.
2 i play a whole day diablo 4 and do helltides, killing grigoire 20 times, kill varshan 20 times. Doing whispers a whole days. Kill duriel till i am out of mats. Same outcome = zero shakoâs (+ mostly busy clearing bags)
3 going on social media and seeing some losers showing their shakoâs they got within 1 / 20 runs. * this rng. This is the frustration part, if someone said they have killed duriel for 100+ times i am fine with that.
Just love the way you are doing it right and everyone else is doing it wrong and donât know how to play
as long as people are having fun who cares how they play except maybe you because you are doing it right because you said so
heaven forbid players play there own way with their own characters
But I could of sworn you said
must be reading things
English is not my main language. I can typ it in Dutch if you want. And if the mods are oke with that.
Maybe i sometimes describe it not good or using the wrong words.
Btw i was thinking about games overall. Its pure bad luck.
In wow i never got invincibles reins, nalak mount, mimirons head, ruhkmar mount. And more wich i cant remember. I left wow because someone showed off all mounts i wanted and he got them one by one in a row.
Hearthstone is no fun cus only mages and deathknights with OP cards. + bad rng from packs. And rigged matchmaking.
Guildwars 2 never gave me anything nice to sell for huge gold. That game only wants my money.
Call of duty is full of camper players and unfair matchmaking (i play controller)
Battlefield 2042 unfair matchmaking and lack of guns (but i must play portal cus that can be fun still)
Now i found diablo 4 and liked it. Till i joined a facebook group and so show off.
I wish someone could just mail me something nice that can improve my mood. But i dont think they care about pplâs mental health.
As if the world has not enough unfairness. It continues virtual. So i better spend my time offline. Sports or something else.
The answer to your question is yes.
The majority of gamers these days arenât looking for a real challenge.
Gamers have changed.
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