🧑‍🔧 Where is the service in the "game as a service" called D4?

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So far Diablo has always been a seasonal game.

In Diablo 2 LOD it was an good system because it had a purpose (reset of the trading economy f.e).

In Diablo 3 it was OK…short-lived but fun sometimes with certain league mechanics.

Now with Diablo 4 Blizzard sold us the game with the promise to be an “game as a service”, regardless of being a seasonal game aswell.

The main aspect of an “live service game” is that the game gets content frequently, even during a season.

F.e. :

  • daily events
  • weekly events
  • weekend bonus (Double XP, double Hearts, double gold, double whatever)
  • additional story elements mid season
  • even 1-2 new “chase items” mid season, fitting to the story
  • new minor endgame activities mid season
  • new challanges (new bosses ,challanging events, challange dungeons, etc…)
  • Dungeon rotations mid season
  • PVP meta shifts mid-season (ofc requires a propper PVP balance first)

…and many more

No matter what but something that gives people a purpose to come back, even in the middle of an league…so the content feels fresh & exciting the whole season long.

That’s the main aspect of an “live service game” but this aspect is sadly non existant in Diablo 4 atm.

The only “live service” thing we got so far in Diablo 4 was new skins in the cash shop + a big pop-up to force the people to buy them. :sweat_smile:

Yes frequent skin rotations in the shop are also a part of an “live service game” but a mockery of customers if it’s the only live service that such game has to offer.

What season will Diablo 4 become an “live service game”? …Or was it only an empty promise?
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  • Edit: So that there are no misunderstandings…I talk here about daiylies and weeklies that suits to any ARPG (like new random events, mini bosses in the open world, special dungeon affixes, etc…)

    Not MMO daylies/weeklys where people are kinda forced to do them…means everything is optional, not neccessary. :wink:
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  • Edit 2: Thanks Blizzard for listening?! :slight_smile: …With 25% more XP & Gold a small service, but for the beginning everything is better than nothing.

    Hope to see more creative “live service events” in future. :blush: :+1:

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Your asking too much from a team that can’t manage inventory loading for every player on the server.

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Did you play the Division? Destiny 2 For the first year or more…

Man game is a baby, they will improve it, let it breath.

core game is way less boring than most first attempts or early releases of live service…

  1. Nope dont want this mmo BS.
    2.Nope.
  2. No.
  3. no.
  4. no.
    6.no
  5. they did that, and S2 will be better.
  6. Not even mid S1…So who knows…
  7. Pvp is not meant to be “balanced” in this game intentionally stated so, to be a unfair brutal engagement and risk. How do you balance “fair” with 3 on one lol… it’s like the darkZone even worse fair goes out the window.

Man i am glad you are not a dev on this game.

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Blizzard’s Live service = drip content

At this rate, even mobile games push out more content than d4 on a fortnight basis.

Also D4 is still 1/3 incomplete, a whole load of backlogs in QoL issues.

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Guess you haven’t played D4 so far…the whole game is built around being some kind of MMO and having MMO elements (mostly annoying ones) without realy being an MMO. ^^

We’re here in an gaming forum and the purpose of such forum is to discuss about game related things…no reason to be insulting.

But I accept your personal oppinion in this points…next time try to be less negative and maybe bring some of your own ideas instead of a crude “No” without context. :slight_smile:

I think you’ve misunderstood my post…I have no problems with the game in general, I’m still playing it and have fun doing so.

I just pointed this out because they’ve sold the game as an “live service game” but obviously they are not even trying to treat Diablo 4 as one. :wink:

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Like i’ve said in other comments.

I think it’s on damage control/fix the game until Season 5 or 6

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It really is not build around it, I plays how i wanted and excpected it too from watching and learning about the game before release as a online arpg and not a mmo.

It’s not missing anything you want more mmo crap is all.

Lol, but your list is 90% features aprg players dont want…it was teh Q n A before release people wanted to know these things, they dont want to play a mmo/job game with dailies etc.

Live service for diablo means updates and content like seasons and fixes, they are and have done all of these.

your list is for mmo games or mmo live service. :+1: :wink:

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Again, you completely misunderstood my post.

I don’t talk about the MMO daylies where people are forced to do them or have the feeling to miss something.

I talk about new daily random activities…like new random events, or weekly events like a new Miniboss who drop certain items, etc…

I talk about daylies that suits to ARPGs, not MMO daylies. :wink:

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Okay so , if that is what you mean sure…game came out in june…

we got all of those in the new season.

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ANd because of that it’s not possible to give the game a live service?

At least a double “Malignant Hearts” weekend or so.

Seasons are here for major changes/updates.

If you read my post again I’ve only listed minor additions…Additions that are a bare minimum in an “live service game”. :wink:

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Sorry OP, Live service isnt what you say, you forgot the most important factor…

D4 is made by Blizz …
Live service according to Blizz standards is a sticker to say “paid Beta”
Also give a Shield to all these White Knights to come and say : something something giff Blizz more time to fix the game

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they did it’s called seasons…and not even half way through it.

LOL. maybe wait and see, they did those in D3 :person_shrugging:

Idc if they do or dont do gimmicks, also rather they work on fixes and real content.

Too soon to be judging this just because you have not have one yet.

The point it to hunt hearts, not the same as double treasure goblins for example.

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You get your live service every time they nerf the piss out of classes. Also when they rotate the store every few days. That’s your live service.

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A live service just means updates can be pushed without taking down the game to do so.

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Live Service in name and monetization only.

Game could have easily been offline and nobody would have noticed. A new season every 3 months, doesn’t have to be always online for that but then again how could they sell their cosmetics and battle passes in such a case.

Though, nowadays new Live Service games usually mean it’s a minimum viable product, undercooked, beta state game with tons of microtransactions and attempts to fix it down the line, as is evident once again with D4. As is evident with the desperate QoL changes/fixes coming in October instead of now (which is ~5 months since release). It should have been in closed development for another year.

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Also would much rather quality Side quests and Npc’s be built into the game.

I dont need a reward/Chore list to make the game “live service”

bonus Xp weekends lol.

stale as bread, lets set the bar a little higher.

Than mediocre “live service” mechanics.

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Was just an example to point out what I mean…but I fear that even this bar is currently way to high. ^^

See?..was it so awful to contribute constructive suggestions in an game related discussion? :smiley:

Would love to see such changes too…But think you suggestion would fit better to an major update or even an expansion rather than a live service implementation, bcs those are not minor additions anymore. :wink:

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1.1.3 is coming next week

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Not at all.

I gave my constructive feedback on your list also, that is how i feel about those things.
They are for the most part not needed in D4.

Idk why you keep winking at me, you additions are not what this game needs.

seasons are for this, are they do they have a rule book LOL.

we are playing games, they can do whatever they like, you want more of teh same drip fed slop many games already give…

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But this game isn’t even up to the par of drop feeding slop, it’s drip feeding balance and quality of life features that are bare minimum