A place to discuss when the devs may see fit to change things for the better, or even in a way that makes any sense whatsoever for a seasonal game.
What will be the driving factor?
Fun?
Losing players?
Let me know your thoughts 
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I don’t think they should be more obtainable. I love the idea of uber uniques. But the problem is there aren’t any interesting items to fill the space between them and what we already have. If plenty of good items existed in the ber/jah area, no one would care about these.
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I think they should be rare, but they’re maybe too rare? 1/800000 of a chance to drop seems prohibitively ridiculous as a drop rate.
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I think they should just add in a bunch more uniques that are wt4 exclusive. I think most of the complainers is mainly because there is nothing at all new in wt4.
If there were like 25 uniques to play with in wt4 instead of only 6, and just 6 of them were rare it wouldnt feel as bad as there being literally 0% chance rounded up that you’re going to see a WT4 unique.
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So you think it makes sense that these items would kind of only be used on the eternal realm or for extremely limited amounts of time for those that manage to find them?
Do you think of them more as trophies than as items to build around potentially, if they were more common?
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Funny enough, Ber/Jah led to game breaking items that at least equal the power level of the six uber uniques, if not eclipse them. And those runes can be found in a few hundred hours of gameplay on single player.
I’d put Infinity and Enigma up against the power level of any item in the franchise.
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There will always be chase Items right now there are 6. There will be 100s eventually. No one here wants D3 where your handed crap, People here want an ARPG not an action game with Items that are rare but you go wholy crap i got an enigma!!!
How rare is Enigma d2?
Enigma is a very rare item that you can play for years and not see.
Welocome to ARPGs 
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Yeah I think of them more like trophies. I think items that have the same kind of power should be available in the jah/ber range too. I think it’s cool to have lightning strike rare items because when that does happen it is a huge event. And there’s always that thing in the back of your mind that says maybe one day you could actually see it. It’s just a cool little anecdote to the game.
But the current implementation is very bad. They need to fill out the item table between those things and what we already have. Big time. That’s really what it comes down to.
Wrong. You can farm these runes in single player, consistently, in less than 1,000 hours of play time.
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To be fair, single player is essentially cheating mode. You just go LK chest runs, or reset the same map over and over again. On bnet, you can go a very very long time and never see a ber or jah.
But they are definitely feasible.
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Rune Drop Chance
| Rune | Chance (Containers) | Chance (Super Uniques) |
|---|---|---|
| Lo | 1 in 183608 | 1 in 81125 |
| Jah | 1 in 222316 | 1 in 98228 |
| Ber | 1 in 248272 | 1 in 109696 |
| Cham | 1 in 333474 | 1 in 147342 |
Considering we don’t have trading in D4, gear farming feels very much like single player to me. Can’t speak for anyone else tho.
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I agree. With that they could implement a static level for each tier of unique that would make them useable by alts and make finding various unique feel more rewarding.
Your point?
Why did you only list containers and super uniques? Any mob in the game has a chance, to drop runes, so once you have a character that can efficiently farm the areas with high enough area level, you farm to your heart’s content, and you see the runes drop after you log a few hundred thousand kills (which doesn’t take all that long).
It doesn’t take tons of effort to get a Javazon capable of running the Cow level, or a Sorc to farm LK or Countess.
The runes you listed are orders of magnitude more common then the six unique items every is pissin about. And they offer just as much power, if not more to a player (except Cham. Cham hurts to see when you need a Jah or Ber still).
We have two confirmed, non-bugged Harlequin Crest drops so far. How many monsters over level 85 have been slain since launch? I myself have killed at least 150,000 monsters based on achievements. Lets say half of those kills were at level 85 or higher as the amount of exp to get from 85 to 100 is the same as 1 to 85. So I’ve logged at least 75,000 monster kills of level 85 or higher.
Consider me an average gamer. Now multiply that number of kills by the number of players that have logged at least as much time as I have, and you get the idea how much more rare these items are than D2 High Runes.
If someone had a gun to my head and and my life depended on finding an Uber Unique in D4 or one of the runes you listed in an allotted amount of time, I know which option I’m picking.
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They should be. It’s absurd to be developing the game for the .000001% who will never see these items.
i bet you buy lottery tickets
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But that’s part of the mystique. An item nearly unobtainable. Think it’s a cool idea. Have been asking for it for years. Mega event when it happens. But they need itemization before that level of rarity too. Right now there’s nothing.
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You seem to be missing a lot of pieces of the puzzle.
This game has no trading and no single player.
You have 3 months each season to find items or you can play eternal.
The more items they add does not make them more likely to drop with the current drop system.
Welcome to common sense
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It comes down to how long it takes to get one on average. Are we talking Jah/Ber drop rate? If so, that’ll be cake. But if we’re talking YEARS to find one, then the drop chance should be adjusted, IMO.
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Its 1 in 800,000 uniques not drops. As in if you loot 800,000 uniques in 3 months your odds of getting 1 uber unique is close to 100%. Not if 800,000 legendaries drop or helms etc. You could get level 85 on the first day of the season and grind 18 hours a day until the season ends and not even loot 100 uniques… or a 0.0000125% chance to see one out of those 100 uniques if all of those are a helm, ring, amulet, or weapon. If any of those are gloves, pants, or chest, there is now less or a zero percent chance to see one.
I do not understand how anyone doesn’t understand how absolutely rare these are. When people say you have a better shot at winning the lotto they are not joking. IT IS OUT OF UNIQUES YOU LOOT NOT ITEMS THAT DROP.
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