Am I missing something? One class just easily does billions of damage a hit with moderate gear, while maxed out gear barb can’t even break 80 mil? How is this allowed??
How about other classes? D4 is more than that op bs spiritborn and barbarian(which has been op for a long time before that)
Obviously other classes should be buffed too. Im just making this example based on that I only play Barb
they adressed that they want to bring the SB in line with the other classes for s7.
Whats your goal tho? do you want to do pit 120+++?
I mean, this kind of damage really only is needed if you plan to go for pit 150.
I’ll tell you how
“We’re listening”
Class balance has been an issue for this game since day 1 . The preference seems to me FOTM build balance despite over and over players saying it’s not what they want.
Be prepared to be told your goals for the game are out of line , and it’s fine that your favorite class sucks , go play another one
I don’t think the lack of balance is purely intentional. It’s simply lack of testing prior to release. They don’t appear to spend a lot of time playing their own game. We knew SB would be OP coming out the gate, but nobody could have guessed all the “unintended interactions” players have found. The ones Blizzard decided to let ride for an entire season of broken game play.
Yeah, that still makes me laugh.
For sure - I don’t think many of the issues of this game are intentional . Like you said - it seems to stem from a systemic misunderstanding of their own game and ARPG formula .
I’m honestly not sure which is worse at this point lol
Im playing seeker/victi build atm. Im doing bossruns. Most of the time i have to do the mechanics because the damage is not enough to kill the bosses in the first phase.
Hmm… (<— professional hmmm) … maybe thats how it should be instead of 1-shotting everything?
This is the way I think it should work. Gear Tied to Torment 1 enables damage to get into Torment 2, Gear In Torment 2 enables you to get into Torment 3 when completed, Gear In Torment 3 allows you to get into Torment 4.
Gear Progression should be what gives your skills the damage boost not broken mechanics.
i need more coffee. this honestly took me a moment too long to grasp haha
So one of the fundamental mistakes this series made with the launch of d3 ( IMO ) was tying player power to weapon damage . Prior - the damage and power was baked into the skills themselves, and as you leveled your skills they became more powerful - and the gear amplified them . It makes for a much more natural power progression feel - but takes way more effort to balance : which is why we have what we have now . Weapons with base damage and the only thing we are chasing is multiplicative damage modifiers on gear .
My barb hits for 12 billion. I’ve just been ignoring spiritborn it’s clearly busted for now but next season it’ll be more inline with the other classes, I hope. If you take spiritborn out most classes are fairly well balanced with maybe the exception being druids.
same. i was curious to try the spiritborn but when it becamse clear how busted it is i avoided it and sticked to my usual classes. next season i wont start spiritborn just to see if everything is fixed.
They have clearly stated before the sale of VoH that SB would be OP so the xpac would sell.
Interpret that any way you want, I take it to mean they don’t care about the health of their game so long as they are getting money. Which is why I did not give them any or buy the Xpac, even now when it is on sale.
Yes, you are missing that we’ve had thousands of threads on this topic already.
It’s how Blizzard wants it, check back in S7, unless you have more fun in POE2 then you can play there instead, whichever works for you.
I can also enjoy the Boss mechanisms with my Necromancer but my Fireball Sorc can take them down before. It is not SB exclusive…OK, the boss one shot maybe is.
Point is to buy VoH so you can play SB.
I had fun with my Lvl 300 SB and now fun with the rogue. Maybe i try another class… but theres no build that i like atm.
if you are into necro - i had a blast with my spirit wave
Earthquake/Dust Devil Barbarian. Almost the most fun Ive had on any character.