When did you realize that D4 is barely half-done, and is years away from being a complete game? For me it came when I got my Druid to ~52 at Tier 3 and realized I just didn’t care. There is no motivation to reach the end game because there is nothing unique or rewarding about it, plus I never once felt stronger. The meager story tie-ins that are the theme of each season can’t even be enjoyed by my main character.
Coupled with the fact that I still couldn’t play my way because an entire section of the Druid’s skill tree (Companions) was fundamentally broken. The truly depressing part is that this game had so much narrative potential; the crown jewel of decades of story-telling (both games and books), and they pissed it away. I uninstalled to make room for BG3 (playing a Druid there is amazing btw), but I still think about what D4 could have been.
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Sadly I was not that smart. I got all the way into the mid-90s before I hit that brick wall. Then I realized I AM a part of their player gaming metric. That I was grinding NMD to prove to myself I could “beat” the game, in spite of them… Only adding to the millions of hours that others, just like me, did. Then they announced these hours of “play-time” as a HUGE win at their little fanboy club party. I think I just threw up again…
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I think the biggest eiphany for me is there is literally no point in playing a character after you hit level 100. I enjoyed hitting 100 and completing the season journey / battle pass, but literally half an hour after I hit 100 I realized how pointless and unfun the game is at max level. There’s just no reason to continue playing.
In D2, I could grind for a thousand hours and still enjoy myself. This game’s endgame just doesn’t hit the same way. Itemization is boring. NM dungeons are tedious. There’s nothing to strive for. I can’t even trade endgame legendaries / uniques, so trading is no fun either.
If uber uniques were actually obtainable and 80% of “lesser” uniques didn’t suck, and you could trade everything…endgame might be worthwhile.
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lol, baaaaasically, same here. I came to the Downloader to move some data around, haven’t actually uninstalled D4, but was watching the news scroll through and I just felt like it was so gross. The Battle Pass, the Seasons, the story that felt over before it began. It was such a rich world and I really did enjoy the trip to 60, but once I hit Tier 4, I had your moment. I sorta already had that moment with WoW and Overwatch. I mean, don’t even get me started on the grossness of OW2. Blizzard is gross now – just generally. Their games are designed to compel, not entertain. It’s sort of like the hangover that one time you drank WAY too much at the party in college – we’ve all had that one experience and now we’ll never drink Bourbon again. You just sort of shiver and heave and leave the room for greener pastures – pastures which apparently are BG3.
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When I played D2 at launch, and when I played Path of Exile at launch of the early access. I have never seen an ARPG launch and be “good” as people like to pretend ARPGs are currently.
You are sort of correct. They were a shell of what they later became. However, they both had that desire to kill that next mob pack, just in case something good drops. D4 has none of that feeling.
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When ever I see a 1 handed sword or 2 handed sword drop my heart sinks because it could be Doom Bringer or Grandfather. Outside of that you have a point.
there is like 50+ affixes… and like only 4 or 5 of them are actually usable.
some of them dont even function at all lol
i am an experiences diablo player and long time gamer… but from a new player perspective… this game is horrific…
nothing in game actually explains the “buckets”. there is really no in game explanation of anything really.
honestly it would be easier to list things i like about the game… and even that list is woefully small.
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Both bourbon and BG3 are amazing. Just don’t do either one to excess. 
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Yeah if you liked slimed down rules of a rules set that’s a doubled down slimed down rules set of 2E D&D and people of your opposite orientation always hitting on you.
You might as well stop anticipating that. You’d have to play multiple human lifetimes to get an uber unique the way things are currently coded. There is no excitement to possibly obtain those items, because you won’t.
I’m still having a blast! Can’t wait for season 2!
Maybe*
I don’t ever consider them in my builds, because they are so extremely rare.
I am honestly jealous. You who can enjoy mediocrity because you don’t know any better. Ignorance is bliss, as it were. Hold tight to that bubble of simple pleasures my friend, and pray you never find a game that changes your perspective of what is good.
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Yeah I’m glad I am able to actually have fun and enjoy things instead of being bitter and sad all the time.
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Before I bought the game. I’ve seen so many “games as service” games start of really empty and slow, so I pretty much expected what I got. I’ve enjoyed the pre-season stuff, and have been enjoying season - now I am moving very slow (just hit 51, so a few more levels and I will move to tier 3) - but the game I am playing is pretty much exactly what I thought I would get based on all the pre-release info.
So I am quite happy with my purchase.
Imagine a game that would be inclusive of ALL play-styles and patterns. I simply struggle to find ANY game that does not do this, except D4. I am super excited that you are happy with your purchase, I am not at all happy with the game in its current state. They greatly improved the fun with the patch on the 8th and then killed the fun when they again “took away the fun” because of their changes to the occultist. Again they broke their word they would not take away fun without “giving something in return.” If they were going to do away with priority rolls on gear, they should have GREATLY decreased the cost of doing it.
I have seen it said the upper management or mid-level management is responsible for these actions, it simply is not true. No top-level executive CARES if I am stacking crit and vulnerability, nor does any mid-level manager. That falls into the Lead design, class design type of category. No top executives or managers know or care that resistances are even in the game, nor do they particularly care if they work, they CARE if consumers are spending time on the game, and if they are enjoying it enough to spend money in the cash shop. That is their job. The QoL, the fun and the enjoyment are all seamlessly connected to the developer team. And the developers can’t seem to get it that people WANT to have fun.
Tier 1-2 and even tier 3 are FUN and fulfill their promise that “You can make Sanctuary your own. Play your way.” Tier 4 is not. In WT-4 you bid farewell to D4 overworld and you spend the rest of your gaming life running the same exact 6 or 7 dungeons until you are 100 or quit.
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Not sure, just wanted to complete a build and always stop caring because I can never get the gear and even if I do, there’s nothing for me to really do with it. Started playing Stronghold Crusader to break things up and haven’t really thought of d4 until now. I should probably check back in a few years instead of a few days/weeks.
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For me it was around level 90 when I realised that the Uniques I had picked up at level 70 were always going to be better in every way than the many I picked up afterwards. I am long past hitting L100 and my level 73 Howl From Below is still superior to the 9 that dropped later. I have found the same problem with the Ancestrals. I am still wearing the ones I picked up about level 80.
For me Diablo has always been about killing stuff so I could get better gear. Not going to happen in D4 .
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made my first nm 100 as ww barb solo and after that i just logged off that was like 2 or 3 days ago now prob im just gonna finish the lvl pass quests to lvl 100 and look for someone to kill me uber lilith and im done i cant handle the lack of endgame and all the dc this game servers sucks