Just a hypothetical question. What sets D2 apart from D4? For me, many may not agree, but being able to trade everything, no bind on pickup. People don’t like this but, I loved it. Its kept D2 relevent since 2000, a almost 24 year old game is still relevent today, as crazy as that sounds. People don’t like the buying and selling of items on D2JSP, it never really bothered me. D2 had a good economy, while D4 never will because of BOP items. I wouldn’t doubt is D2 is around even another 20 years just for the economy alone.
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Hoping D4 goes down D3 route. The constant sell spamming and buying off D2 jsp was a massive turn off for me and just killed leaderboard legitimacy. Not know if someone was legit or just a CC warrior
I’m sure the economy is strong but just put me off enough I wouldn’t play it for those reasons alone
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Itemization + loot drop rate & progression, still after 20 years it’s way better than D4. I loved some of the Uniques being Super Rare! Once such found, feelings are superb. Expected same from D4 but… oh well.
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itemization and economy are the 2 big things.
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So what makes D2 better than D4 for you is the whole botting for items and making money off said items and the game means nothing
makes the whole Diablo world wonder why you bought D4 just to complain on the Forums for, when the whole Diablo world knows D2 players don’t believe there is a Diablo after D2 because you can’t make money from it and yet here you are claiming D2 is better than any other diablo purely for the money making and nothing to do with the actual game
and even stupider you knew before you bought the game there would be no selling of items in game
D2 player trying to claim a non hypothetical question is hypothetical and even worse you are only going to complain because we don’t agree with you and as far as you are concerned it doesn’t matter what we think because D2 is the only game for you
and typical D2 troll you are trolling on the D4 forums because it isn’t D2 instead of playing the supposed greatest game ever made D2
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I can think D2 is better than D4 but be playing D4. Especially with seasonal content it makes swapping between the two (or other ARPGs) quite easy.
@OP
For me the thing that still would have me say D2 > D4 is the item hunt and then the layers of itemization levels/climb that you have to do. As mainly a SSF player anyways I don’t really benefit from the trading aspect in D2; however, what I do like is that you have a kind of ladder of items you’re climbing to get to full power that takes time. I tend to play single player HC for the ./playersX command as it is the only way to scale content and drops in D2 (really wish that’d come to online) and the power levels and layers adds a ton of play time for me.
I’d say roughly 6 weeks into D4 Season 2, which I am enjoying, and probably 120 hours in (3 hours a day seems about right, maybe a bit less) I have a “97% built” Sorc for all the Lightning builds (Charged Bolt (pref), Chain Lightning, Ball Lightning) and about 94% for Blizzard. Granted, I got VERY lucky on Shako dropping on my 15th-ish solo run of Duriel but at this point I’m just messing with conjuration etc. and finishing off the 7 glyphs for Charged Bolt I am currently using. In D2 I’d be at about mid-tier GG items this far in with still a lot to hunt and play for.
The other reason I like D2 better is that the itemization between builds is a lot more pronounced than D4 currently. This will probably improve in D4 over time and already has to some degree. It just needs a bit more time here and I’m looking to s4 itemization update with some excitement.
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Why bother trying to decide which is worse?
They both have their own major issues and several shared major issues.
can you tell me where i complained? D2 does have a legit economy, D4 is not even close to having an economy. D2 is still going strong after 23 years. Obviosly having an economy and good itemization works…
Itemization / loot chase.
Music.
Slower pace of the game.
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Diablo 2 is a game as an RPG and serves important elements here.
For example, there is no real class balance in D2, but exactly what is always worth doing again and again, class depth.
Coupled with a skill system that elevates almost every skill to its own build and also has clear dividing lines here.
D4 doesn’t do that at all and breaks the whole game, instead of revolving around the skills and the items are accessories and only improve the actual element of skill, into an item game where the skill is squatted in a skill tree and then somehow totally blown up in a very boring way via items and sometimes mixed up in a strange way.
There’s no need to talk about the fact that the items in D2 are more fun.
And on top of that, D2 is always perceived as a game with a beginning and an end, but, and this is important, it doesn’t have any superimposed extra content.
It simply runs as an RPG and the players look for their own content and then hope for nice drops and play through the world.
In D4, everything feels like an arena fight and the best way to get through it is just to get through somehow.
The RPG elements are weak to meaningless, the classes are all kind of the same after progression with poor skill systems, no real specializations, etc.
It feels like Tetris with exactly one brick falling onto its previous brick in a one-way street.
And that quickly becomes monotonous and has little traction and impact.
How quickly did you lose your attraction to the core element of character skill, growing in your specialization, etc. in D4, because everything was blurred and progressive?
Do you want to experience a different feel in the class?
D2 does it all 100x better. You can play a necromancer who is more of a spectator, you can play your hydra sorc with a completely different play style, timing, tactics and pace.
You can play the Fallen Assassin differently again, but you can also play the Necro as a progress caster, or the Blitz Sorc as a combo blitzer.
D2 simply works better and offers you more replayability with the classes to the extent that you can play it for years and always have fun playing the Meteor Sorc or the Poison Necromancer again, whether with minions or rather with body explosions… It stays in the class, it just seems interesting, but not necessarily for balance and progress.
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What I liked most about D2 were the different environments you played through over and over. They were unique and memorable. I like the variety of locations in D4 but they all kind of run together to me.
What I did not like about D2 was that I found Hell mode unplayable. Getting one shot by white mobs right at the beginning of the act took away any interest for trying to work through that.
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The game itself, at launch. Next question.
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D2 = Better Game ( Im sorry this is wrong ) This is just your nostalgia talking or your personal feeling . Id say nostalgia most likely 
A better game is completely subject to opinion. You might personally think its better cause of XYZ i might think its worse and D4 is the better game for XYZ . It all comes down to you as a player and how you personally feel.
All this is an a opinion post trying to annoy the masses which is ridiculous
If you meant real money trading sure, D2 trading is one of industrial lead in p2w contents. There are people / workshops makes millions at trading on D2 and POE. Whats the point of playing an item grind game where you can buy it? Trading is the most retarded mechanic in a loot farmer game, as broken as botting. If you can buy items, you can bot for it, both are equals.
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Nostalgia mostly.
As for trading hopefully they go the D3 route; trade within your recent party. Allow trading everything, but not globally, and for limited time.
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every…single…detail.
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Off line mode and modding are what makes d2>d4
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The Paladin of course!
Personal Opinion makes a game great for the person playing it , Spouting i love X game over Y game is just you looking for attention
Lmfao, you live in a fantasy world if you think d2 is in anyway relevant. It’s beyond dead. As are the concepts that made it popular, 30 years ago. They added a bunch of QoL changes and graphics to d2r and that game is also dead. it’s over. Let it go.
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