WASD movement through a third party script - is it going to be legal?

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I’m not reading all of what you wrote I just gleemed and found this as I take your whole stance as a selfish attitude in regards to a games potential when trying to incorperate online and growth.

WASD is an advantage, it’s going to be an advantage for personally, I’ve been a PC gamer for too long and I can know where to place my fingers without ever looking, even when lieing down in bed in an akward angle I re-adjust and still find them without looking but this is not the case for most of the playerbase.

I advocate for a challenge and I advocate for accessibility, on WASD your character can be running forward and running backwards immediately, you cannot do that in r/l, that is not real and that is just silly mechanics if the game devs have not focused on them.

When game mechanics are kept more real, the AI has a better chance, players have some precision hurdles and commitments to moving and this essentially has helped keep Moba’s engaging, secretely.

If you think most people want their character to be moving like it’s on wheels and with things like map overlay so you can ignore details of the game in favor of dungeon clearing like if you’re on some important Terminator mission objective from the future you’re out of touch, completely.

I have nothing more to say to someone closed minded and who clearly prioritizes themselves, you can keep crying for advantages all you’d like, pathetic.

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Actually you can both run in a direction and aim a tennis racket and hit a ball at the same time. You pretty much can change directions irl instantly.

You do not focus on your walking path as much irl, but fine. I argued the case openly. I even argued map overlay has inherent flaws, but like you said, you didn’t read it, so what is the point. You litterally have no clue what you are replying to anyway. Pretty sure we will both have fun playing the game in a few days. cheers =)

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I’m curious. Is it against Blizz rules to mod your own mouse control? Why? If you’re not messing with the client why should they care? It’s your computer. Can they tell you what printer to use or what speakers to use? Can they tell you what music channel to listen to while playing? Can they tell you which keyboard to use? I’m confused, I admit.

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No idea what you are trying to say with your Reply, nor where that “blablabla PoE 2 blabla Purist blabla mega geeks” comes from.

Facts: More than enough people in this and other threads regarding WASD-Movement have elaboratly explained, that implementing this Option is an absolut Number One Priority.

Be it for Accessability, Health-Reasons or simply an Option for those who want to experiance the Game this way.

Btw, i´ve yet to read a logical argument from you or ANY others person advocating against the Option for WASD-Movement.

But than again, beeing a good sheep demands that you take and eat what the BIG Corp feeds you :wink:

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When I met wheels I meant a peculiar device, one side that has its wheels on on the ground and the other raised away from the ground, preparing to spin in the other direction and will descend and take priority immediately when called upon, raising the other immediately and vice versa. Anyway, robot/mechnical movement…

I’ll bite again…the thing you need to understand is…“to be a good sport”.

Games aren’t just built for widescreen monitors that have full 4k/8k res and at least 120hz refresh rate, Riot Games doesn’t tell League of Legends players “We’re sorry, you can’t see the subtle differences in mechanics because your PC is simply not modern”, that’s an extreme example.
The crux is, a fair bit of “you think you want it but you don’t” comes into play here, you want the responsiveness of WASD, nerds who’ve mastered fighting games with it where they pre prep the next movement so quickly in advance definetly want it but there’s one thing that isn’t taken into account, it doesn’t actually improve the game, it just improves their success rate at winning (or mechnical prowess, being able to do difficult things that most of the population cannot, same thing), it’s a key difference.

Developers would of made and tested this game for the gamepad and mouse move control scheme’s, with their flaws and it’s as simple as that. You may not be a fan of them but…there’s a pretty massive statistic from the moba genre especially, is that Mouse move works and it’s natural and for its flaws, much like humans sprinting and you can’t magically start running backwards immediately any time, say between 0.1-2 seconds, it’s a craft that we warm to and appreciate, even without knowing, you can read opponents based off of their click tendency for instance.
To be able to interact and read your fellow player or opponent is the essence of gaming.

Much like how any massive sport in the world doesn’t start equiping players with steroids, rocket boots or Attack on Titan gear, it’s the beauty of the game, there’s a beauty to keeping things natural (AND accessible), otherwise if we keep taking the best course, from WASD, to mind chips from Elon Musk that place you wherever you like, we’ll keep going forward and we’ll lose a chunk of humanity…(but obviously it’s great for people who a disabled and need them!).

Hope you enjoyed the read if you did, I don’t need you too (with the ignorance you’ve shown to certain topics) but I like putting a mature and interesting perspective and review out there.

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You can’t rely on AI to give you such specific answers about random topics like that. Just google “blizzard ricochet” yourself. Every single mention of Ricochet is that it’s specifically used for Call of Duty

The AI is just making up random bits of “info” based on small bits of fact. It has 0 idea whether reWASD could be caught or not, all it’s seen is “third party programs are not allowed” and elaborated upon that with assumptions. Admittedly, reWASD probably is bannable, but 99% of what’s contained in that AIs response is just an assumption

I actually tried asking chatGPT a few days ago about a quest in WoW just because I was curious if it knew the answer. It seems like a pretty simple question, there’s so many info sites and guides out there. It first told me that it’s knowledge only goes up to 2021, so it can’t answer a question… about a game… from 2006. And that the game didn’t include the specific quest I was talking about in 2006.

I explained that the game did include the quest, and that it certainly included the quest before 2021. It then apologized for any confusion caused, said the quest DID exist in 2006, and then proceeded to make up an entire quest guide for a quest in a different zone with little to no accurate information except for some names I had already provided

Just for laughs I decided to try Bard with the same question. It did better, but still got things wrong. The general quest guide it got correct, but it got the number of NPCs wrong (~5 vs 1), as well as the level of the mob and claiming that the mob was elite when it isn’t

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Thing is I verified the answer with straight Google and found where it got the answer and it was correct.

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Someone who ends a post like this definetly has a superior opinion…

If you read my last wall of text, you’ll learn something…prooobably not actually, judging by your crude position.

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Sure, I’d love to see a link to any article where Blizzard say “we use Ricochet in world of warcraft”, because I checked myself and saw 0. Blizzard has always used Warden for WoW, and in every single article mentioning Ricochet that I’ve seen, it says " RICOCHET Anti-Cheat brings a broad enhancement to the security of for Call of Duty, bringing server enhancements to Call of Duty: Vanguard and Call of Duty: Warzone"

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The question was is it bannable and yes it very well could be. That was what everyone was trying to point out but he had his own agenda so it was pretty much a moot point.

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I think it MIGHT get you a ban if you used, if its easily detectable.

That being said, a lot of 3rd party mods are against the TOS but Blizz lets slide and only enforces the rule when it suits them.

What I find… interesting is that a single person can get this hacked into the game so its clearly possible. Blizzard is just refusing?

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I’m just not sure I see why you quoted an AI that in the very same message proved itself wrong

Is reWASD bannable? Probably, yeah. Does anyone in this thread know 100% for sure? No, we’re all making assumptions based on a very vague rule

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No, nobody knows 100% for sure, except for the Blizzard anti cheat team themselves. Needless to say I quit using reWASD because of the answers that I found.

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Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do this?

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if the game were well designed, we should not need to use macros, but 4 example the barbarian shouts… its freeking ridiculous to having to press 3 buttons every minute… i did a macro so if i double press Y will cast each shout in order… thats QOL not cheating… and yeah… rewasd is ESSENTIAL if you want to take advantage of the 180€ elite2 controller… otherwise your paddles are almost useless…

Dont forget Wow officially supports macros, isnt there an issue? why? @blizzard

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You going around necro’ing all these threads because you’re butthurt they won’t support a turbohud knockoff?

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I’d say it’s technically against the ToS.

The thing is there’s literally no way for Blizzard to detect and ban you for something like this, unless you were to announce what you’re doing on an official forum. :wink:

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if they have acces to the id or the name that your gamepad shows as a device in the control panel, they can know if you are playing with PS4, logitech, razer, xbox… etc etc … controller… as the blizard launcher is one of the most invasive ones… i gues they pretty much know whitch gamepad we’re using…

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That’s interesting, but I think the TS was basically just writing a script that converts WASD key presses into mouse actions, so he could play using WASD. Since that conversion is happening on your client PC, Blizzard could only know it’s happening if they scanned your PC for any third party software while you play.

Since scanning their customers PC’s without their consent is very questionably legal and would open them up to lawsuits, I highly doubt they would do that.

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as far as i know from the last Terms and conditions drama, they can scan your pc… maybe europe is protecting us at the moment , but … as far as i understand when asmongold talked about it, they totally can do it