Can anyone confirm what you need for stats to not get one shot by uber lilith wave attack?
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No, it’s guaranteed one shot, however all of them can be avoided. It’s fairly hard to do consistently tho. If you have issue with specific pattern let me know, I believe I can help.
As Mr. Miyagi says: “Best defense… no be there”
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This is unfortunate if true. Kinda makes damage reduction, armor and life on gear and paragon worth nothing really then. It’d be like them saying “nah respec your whole build for dps, then learn to dodge the mechanic”
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You will need damage reduction for her other attacks and spawns in Phase 2. You need offense, defense, resource management and being able to avoid (demanding on movement speed/avoidance ability/skill) and plan well. Only thing this fight wont test (unless cheesed) is your counter CC.
Ofc, right now, it IS possible to burn her so fast that you can skip several mechanism, however I believe that is going to be patched out during this week.
Yah, i’m just not a fan of guaranteed one shots no matter how you gear your character (i have a ton of dr, 15khp and 7.8k armor and still get one shot), but if you go sorc and use flame shield or deep freeze for example you are immune to it. Seems a bit contradictory to the “guaranteed one shot” idea.
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Well it’s there to provide some difficulty, if you could tank through it it is pretty hard to design fight that would impose some true challenge. There are times where she can drop so many walls that defensive CD have no chance to get you through all of them, fun little example:
https://streamable.com/u1lunh?fbclid=IwAR0VeYl_urZCoVG2gvx9vNZXG4JhLwMzSmSBoB5Y6_zeFyhOOZEB4CowLzw
(btw I have 8600 armor in this video and tons of other reduction)
and what’s your hp? it looks like you tanked it @ 56 seconds in
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Hehe, no I didn’t, what I tanked was short contact with outer circle (I had incorrect positioning and this was price to pay)
lol then shortly there after you use your “i am immune” skill to dodge another one…
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Correct, at that time I had massive issue when dealing with Waves that included AoE circle drop, I figured out what to do with them later but that was quite a many tries later (plus I was positioned poorly for that drop anyway and would die there without def ability up, my bad). Either way they are best time to use your defensive ability.
The problem I see with that is the telegraphs of the skills is abysmal. How is my minion necro supposed to see the landings of the waves if the msrkers is just a slight darkening of the ground that my skeletons and golem will be covering?
It’s a badly designed fight. On top, I see that you are using the immunity when she combines a stomp with the waves,so if she creates this one shot death stomp on top of the waves, and dodging does not give immunity frames, with the current travel speed of the waves, the fight totally disadvantages low mobility classes or classes without multiple dashes.
What’s the point of potions? You could even make the attack not be a one shot, but apply poison that consumes your life bar, so you can use a pot if you mess up to not die, but limit the amount of pots available per phase of the fight.
I absolutely refuse to be forced to play bone mage with zero minions for that fight. It’s bot wbat I signed up for when I rolled this class.
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not every class gets a “i am immune” button, or two for sorc, though, and because of that you should be able to rely on the tankiness of the build to offset this. This fight inherently says classes with an “i am immune” button will have an easier time.
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Well, as I said, I figured out how to avoid AoE circle drop waves later on, it’s still very difficult tho, but definitely possible.
You are going to potions need for other stuff like adds, especially in P2 and her melee swipes in both phases.
As I said, you don’t really need immunity here and if anything mobility ability helps a ton there, especially if they are on lower cd. Immunity skills absolutely don’t have short enough cooldown to cover everything, I would take shorter CD mobility over this tbh in Phase 1. And again, while helpful, it is not really required, fight is definitely difficult. You will utilize the tankiness in P2 and if fight is prolonged in P1, don’t worry.
A lot of the mechanics that a tankier class can survive are 1shots for the sorc. So the immunity buttons come at a price
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I move fast but in p2 she covers the hole area with the waves i have no way of getting around it i just came to the conclusion im just never going to do this and ill just let it sit until servers get shut down. Its not a fun fight just really dum they added this fight in the firat place 1% will complete it and every1 else will have to ask for help just another bad choice by blizzard
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Thats not true, you will eventually out level lilith and it will be easy…oh wait nvm
I have spent 8m in repairs used all my matts to craft potions and inscents farmed gear and rolled it and hit 100 and nope waves 1 shot and really no way of getting around them i do good dps but the p2 waves just no matter what i do just cove the hole area no way to dodge them
Yeah, this is a class privilege thing. Necro is busted for that fight, honestly most are except barb.
This fight with far better gear would take you 10-20 times longer on barb.
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