Trading in D4. Does it even exist?

Not “in” game wink wink :eyes:

Trading exists and is definitely worth doing.

The problem is it’s very hard to line up a deal. In D2R you could create a game for example and say “trading shako for X” and people would join and barter etc. If that didn’t work you could use 3rd party sites or the discord channel.

In D4, finding people in game to trade with is near impossible. Discord and sites are mandatory. Most casuals won’t even attempt to solicit a trade this way.

You can’t say trading isn’t good or viable. There’s some OP yellows for trade right now with people trading them for gold.

If you really want to build strong you’ll be trading for that BiS yellow and farming for that good aspect roll. People just haven’t figured that out yet, because it’s hard to do.

Just have open trade and implement an in game equivalent to jsp or auction house. The only reason jsp exists is because there used to be no way to facilitate trade besides the title of your game.

3rd party sites like traderie are amazing and super popular for people who dont want to deal with forum gold but still want to make trades. Having an in game way to do this would get rid of 99% of peoples perceived “”““RMT””“”

Honestly there is only 2 ways to have trading that isnt a car wreck and super user unfriendly.

  1. An Auction House, the best way. Put items in there set a price or an auction. And people can click to buy it plain and simple.

  2. The GGG (PoE) approach, they wanted some more friction so they do not want an auction house. Your stash tab is your action house. You set a stash tab as public. You list your price by right clicking the item. The item goes up on the pathofexile website. People can search and filter similar to an AH. You click on “message the seller” Then you paste it in game and it will auto whisper the seller. “Hi, id like to buy your X item for Y”
    the person then invite you to a party and you go to their hideout and you do the trade.

There is really no other way. Like D4 right now is 3rd party website and or discord. Which is just awful. Have to add people to bnet i assume as well. uggh.

Also JSP tried to get a foothold in PoE, but never managed because there is superior ways to do trading. JSP will only work if it is the best/easiest way to trade.

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Trading system, the current best solution needs to be similar to Last Epoch, not POE, POE is outdated!