Thorns Minion Mega Test "Patch 2.1.2"

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Introduction

Hello again faithful summoners. I am back to once again gift you with the despair and knowledge of the state of minions. This was honestly much easier to test as there is no damage variance on thorns. Simply get a base value then introduce a multiplier or additive damage source. I hope that this information makes its way to the developers and can be fixed along side the remaining issues minions are facing.

Findings

  • Skeletal Priest: Not working
  • Razorplate: Working
  • Titan’s Fall: Working
  • Fueled by Death: Working
  • Death’s Embrace: Working
  • Amplify Damage: Working
  • Finality: Working
  • Minion Masteries: Working
  • Kalan’s Edict: Working
  • Cultleader: Not Working
  • Warrior Damage [+]: Working
  • Golem Damage [+]: Working
  • Summoning Damage [+]: Working
  • Deadraiser / Glyphs: Working
  • Hellbent Commander: Not Working
  • Bone Golem Active: Working
  • Minion Armor: Working
  • Golem Glyph: Working
  • Hulking Monstrosity: Working
  • Golem Mastery: Working
  • Aspect of Reanimation: Not Working
  • Great Feast: Not Working
  • Aspect of Elements: Not Working
  • Aspect of Innercalm: Working
  • Unyielding Commander’s Aspect: Not Working
  • Conceited Aspect: Not Working
  • Edgemaster’s Aspect: Not Working
  • Needleflare Aspect: Working “Applies a reduced value?”
  • Vehement Brawler’s Aspect: Working
  • Supreme Soulrift: Working
  • Thorns Value: True to damage calculation including monster damage reduction.
  • Heir of Perdition: Working

Conclusion

I want to give a big shout out to u/Macrobioboi and u/Seetod for all of their help testing and reporting these issues to the developers. Without them I don’t think this class or minions would be what it is today. I would also like to extend a very truthful thank you to the hard working developers who continue to bring us wonderful updates and additions to this game. While I understand the frustration we have faced recently, it came from them trying to modernize Minions as a build and improve the playability and QoL of the build which ended up bugging it. I would also like to note that while I didn’t previously include thorns testing in my original bug testing thread I did do some behind the scenes. My belief was that fixes overall would lead to fixes to this subset Minion build. And fortunately I was right to assume this as thorns was not working with a majority of this list before 2.1.2 came out. Overall I am looking forward to playing thorns after the fix and hope to enjoy some endgame thorns action in the future. As always, thank you for reading and happy hunting.

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Thx so much for U hard work mate.

I was test each passive but ur tests are much more deep and comprehensive than the way I was taking.

I hope after all this feedbacks we gotta a fix on next weeks.

About Needleflare: In my tests (against trash mobs) I feel a significant decrease damage if compared with base thorns dmg. Maybe 20%[?]. But I need do more tests against elites and bosses on high level.

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It is not applying some bonus, I didn’t take the time to math out what exactly.

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I would like to see blizzard reach out to all 3 of you guys and dump 10k in all your paypal accounts.

thanks for all the testing buddy.

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Best blizz can do is say thanks. Maybe dump a bunch of platinum on our friends.

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Having switched to primarily a Mendeln build and mostly away from a Thorns build this season, I can see how much I’ve been nerfing myself playing a Thorns Minion build in prior seasons.

Thorns damage from minions have always underperformed other types of minion related damage, and you can see part of the reasons why from these tests. I hope some day the developers finally address all the issues that are holding back Thorns damage from minions and make a Necromancer Thorns build a truly viable build to play.

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Thorns damage from minions still bugged… Hellbent Commander still not working to thorns (2.1.3 patch).

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honestly… so annoying. I would love to have the bone golem active ability do some actual damage with the thorns.

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Tested as well and still bugged, I’ll follow this thread and you guys as it feels we’re a small community of thorns necromancers. Hopefully the dev’s see this and focus on it next patch. I remember getting hit by scourge in season 4 & 5 and seeing his health bar melt, now barely anything drains (pit 80)…

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