This game feels too complex

With paragon, all the gear available, and all the possible ways to lay out your skill points it just feels very hard to throw a build together yourself without a massive amount of prior game knowledge. In d3, i liked to just throw stuff together myself and maybe if i felt it wasnt working look online for pointers. In d4, it feels very hard to get anything even close to optimal without googling a build.

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You can do it my dude.

I have faith.

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Is this the old HailFall from the D3 forum?

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hi there, since you mentioned about throwing your own build together in d3, i assume your goal is not to become the best of the best, you simply want to have a good time, yeah?

In that case, you can still do it in d4. You can simply read the board and its legendary nodes, and check what board has the correct stats for your desired build.

It wont be optimized, but you can absolutely do it and still clear everything up to the very end except maybe pit 100+

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The basic premises are:

  • Go for damage multipliers rather than additive dmg
  • Max out your armor (9230) and resists (70)
  • Get as many hps as you can get
  • Focus on crit chance and attack speed and damage reduction (and possibly cooldown reduction)

After that it’s about synergies between skills and your legendary affixes, which aren’t too bad. It only gets complicated when you want to min/max your paragon board.

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Complexities develop the brain.

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You still can, but you won’t be able to participate in the Pit or maybe NMD100 but even those aren’t the most difficult with a mid build. The trouble you’re going to run into is that you are required to run Pits to master work your gear and as they’re tuned currently there are only a few builds per class that are wildly successful there.

So, for all content outside of the competitive scene I think your can slap skills together and be successful but when you’re measuring yourself against others fun isn’t really the gage anymore but the highest level you can complete.

The game lost faith. Is overdue with everything. Game looks like content of collections of everything. My last Season and I say goodbye to this trash.

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They decreased the loot affixes but offer more powerful ones with the caveat that you have to level up through Masterworking (unless you don’t want to do Pits or tormented bosses), which forces you to deal with 1-shot mechanics and learn the latest exploits (why was someone complaining of not having enough herb mats? prob from all the potions and elixirs to do pits). For some, that is fun, for others, it can be but often is not once frustration and disappointment eclipses any brief moments of enjoyment.

and that’s why we have so many guide websites.

Just look at am

I’m going to be real, this is how I felt on day 1. I even made a post about the overwhelming aspects to the game. One year later, now I’m saying to myself that this is too simple.

Paragon Board is just too time consuming and boring. They could make it way simple without the +5 dexterity +5 willpower nodes… etc

Just pick the Glyphs and choose from a selection of Legendary Nodes. Thats it

There’s absolutely nothing complex about this game. It’s simplistic and caters to a1 or 2 classes as fun and playable each season. Unless you want to play Druid. then it’s just a pointless exercise in futility.

Just because you feel that way it doesn’t mean everyone does? If OP says it feels too complex then it feels too complex for them.

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Paragon is clunky but otherwise it’s a fairly straight forward system IMO. If it’s all too hard just visit Maxroll and copy a build.

Guys, it’s simple

Stop feeding the troll :slight_smile:

The game is full of double dipping and bugs, a lot of skill and paragon nodes dont function as intended and some are fixed with every patch. You have 2 choices - do testwork with the dummies and a calculator, or use other people’s knowledge. That is if you demand that your build is fully optimized, else just throw useful stats on your items…untils you hit a wall, then its back to the dummies or other people with you. :S

it isn’t complex, its unfinished and broken, there’s a difference.

a live-dps or combat log would be nice though.

times like these is when i wish the forums were like survivor and we could vote someone off the island. d4 has been simplified and made easy mode enough. we dont want an afk clicker game

Games of this genre have always ever been 3 things - a math homework attached to a slot machine clicker fest, a math homework attached to a bullet hell a la the 4-16bit console era, or a math homework attached to a statistics project and a wall street trader tutorial. In the age of the internet people tend to copy the solutions to their math homework, especially so if the textbook containing the problems is full of typos, inaccuracies and misinformation or incomplete. Pick your poison from what remains.

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