Theres your fix for endgame content

Raid: Echoes of Darkness - Diablo Series

Theme: Traverse the abyss of darkness and despair, confronting the malevolent forces of the Diablo universe.

Bosses:

Boss 1: Astaroth, Guardian of Hatred
Theme: The demon lieutenant guarding Mephisto’s essence.

Astaroth, a powerful demon and lieutenant to Mephisto, stands as the guardian of the hellfire barrier surrounding the Cathedral of Hatred. This barrier encapsulates Mephisto’s essence, slowly reforming after being released from the Black Soulstone following Malthael’s defeat. Astaroth’s mastery over hellfire grants him control over this fiery defense, making him an imposing obstacle that must be overcome.

Wing 2: Plague of Pestilence
Theme: A realm tainted by pestilence and disease.

  1. Ashava the Pestilent: An embodiment of decay and sickness, Ashava spreads vile plagues and unleashes poisonous assaults upon the raid, reflecting the theme of pestilence.

  2. Avarice the Gold Cursed: Guarding cursed treasures, Avarice summons greed-driven minions and traps, testing the raiders’ integrity and resolve against the curse of gold.

  3. The Wandering Death: An ethereal entity representing past regrets, The Wandering Death forces the raiders to confront their histories, reminiscent of introspection and mortality.

Wing 3: Chambers of Torment
Theme: A twisted labyrinth of torment and anguish.

  1. Andariel, the Maiden of Anguish: With venomous attacks and swift movements, Andariel subjects the raiders to physical and emotional torment, reflecting her title as the Maiden of Anguish.

  2. Duriel, the Lord of Pain: Deeper within the labyrinth, Duriel inflicts excruciating suffering with icy attacks and unrelenting pursuit, mirroring his dominion over pain.

Wing 4: The Fallen Horadrim and Resurrection of Rathma
Theme: The fall of a hero and the hope of revival.

  1. Elias, the Fallen Horadrim: Once a revered Horadrim, Elias wields shadow magic and eldritch powers, echoing his tragic transformation into darkness.

  2. Resurrection of Rathma: Friendly and in need of aid, Rathma seeks help to undo the aftermath of Inarius’ actions, reflecting the theme of revival and redemption.

Wing 5: Queen of Hatred
Theme: The ultimate confrontation with the embodiment of hatred.

  1. Lilith, Daughter of Hatred: The mastermind behind the chaos, Lilith employs dark magic and beguiling abilities to challenge the raiders, reflecting her embodiment of hatred.

As the raiding party progresses through these encounters, they must master unique mechanics, overcome environmental challenges, and strategize to conquer each boss. Effective teamwork, communication, and adaptability are paramount for prevailing in the Echoes of Darkness raid in the Diablo series.

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I disagree more on a fundamental level that I don’t want to rely on other people to complete content in a Diablo game. Lost Ark has this mechanic and people will kick you out of groups because you aren’t geared properly or have the right build for your class, so you end up doing it solo instead.

I agree the game could use some more endgame content, but personally speaking, I would not like it in the form of co-op raids that require you to bring along 3 other people. Solo raids? No problem, let me do it solo.

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Stop trying to make Diablo an MMO

We dont need raids, this isnt an MMO game, and shouldnt be

You should be able to complete EVERYTHING solo, always. Thats what Diablo is first and foremost

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well it can be solo if you want , its just a idea for debate , maybe they are listening on something.

It’s a good idea, don’t let the crazed people here tell you otherwise, for them it’s a “If I don’t want to do it, it shouldn’t be a thing” narcissistic thought process

I’d play it. 7charac

People will read raid and think WoW. Not a boss rush dungeon fyi.

Just terminology.

I’d almost come back for this. Still issue of itemization and boring classes tho.

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That was basically the Tiassa nightmare quest and the campaign. How about if they want to go more in the direction of being an MMO make Hell the raid realm and putting 4 member raid in the lesser prime evils as separate wings for Azmodan, Belial, Andariel and Duriel each wing having a seven day lock out then have then the 3 primes as 8 member raids each with separate wings for Mephisto, Diablo and Baal.

I’d be ok with this then, add a solo option as well as a group option, more options are always better in my opinion.

Is it solo friendly? If not, hard pass. It’s already close enough to being World of Diablo as is. Raids requiring large groups pushes this completely out of ARPG into MMORPG.

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Raid would be cool but it isn’t a fix for endgame content when a ton of people, probably most play solo.

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If only they copied POE endgame maps properly. They had a whole fully designed, tried and true, tested and loved, endgame already made, and all they did was make it a repeatable levelling dungeon token with added frustration mechanics.

The team in charge of NM dungeons had no idea what made POE maps so fun, given how NM dungeons turned out.

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Hard pass, forced group content as endgame would be the finale nail for me. If I wanted to play a mmo I would play a actual mmo, not this wierd pseudo multi player game.

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Why is Ashava fire-themed instead of poison themed, though? :stuck_out_tongue:

That aside, I don’t dislike the idea of a multi-part “megadungeon” (for D4 standards).
Though I don’t think they should re-use campaign and world bosses if they did something like this in the future; they should make something new that fits the content. But that’s just my opinion.

I mean it was hard enough to find enough people to do world bosses with, you want raids now? With no chat?

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Agree with your post but that’s not true. Diablo is ideally a group based game that can still be played and enjoyed solo.

The first word to your fix is “Raid”.

While I think this is a good direction to take an APRG, it starts becoming an MMO when you implement raids. I am all for it, but the bulk of the ARPG community is against this as they want to have a snoozefest solo grind type of game.

…As opposed to a snoozefest team grind kind of game? :stuck_out_tongue:

I mean, WoW is the most successful MMO ever, and what I know of it seems like a very similar gameplay loop to ARPG’s:

  1. kill things to gain XP and money and find things
  2. XP lets you level to improve your skills, money lets you buy things that aren’t as good as the ones you find (but are reliably obtainable).
  3. with your more powerful character, you can now move into higher difficulty areas, where the things you kill give more XP and money, and drop better things.
  4. Repeat from 1, except you eventually get to max level, which is when the “real game” begins (which is pretty much the same thing, except XP doesn’t matter)

as long as it’s not raid like in diablo immortal why not…

i hated raid in diablo immortal : it was more of a waiting game than anything else… sometime it took hours to gather a group

it was horrible.

i’d rather thing doable solo or with specific friends

or something akin to current world boss: you get grouped automatically to people.

Someone say Raid? Count me in!

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