The Pit can be undertaken with groups up to four, with the player who opened The Pit receiving the lion’s share of materials.
Only the player who opened The Pit has the chance of receiving the Materials used for summoning Tormented Echoes.
So, we went from duriel runs where 1 opens and everyone has same loot, to one opens and gets majority of loot. Why not middle ground? Where everyone who is in pit contributes same amount of materials?
I understand why…so there are no leechers, but if leechers contribute same materials = a lot less leechers by default, of course, BUT, making groups MUCH less effective/efficient is a bad idea, IMO
All I will say is get yourself a group for the Pit when the PTR hits and compare drops with your teammates. Maybe it needs to be tweaked or altered in some way. Give it a try first, test it out, leave feedback on the PTR forums.
Who knows people may agree with you and it might get changed, but they aren’t going to change anything before people have had a chance to actually try it out.
why being forced? i did 1000 vaults this season solo and prob 100 together. clear speed is same, but just 100 together because most ppl in my clan are not playing this season…
but now, there is literary, no reason to play pit together, which is what will be the only end game at higher tiers… def a bizarre move
well, no, duriel rmt, afaik had to do with buying materials and in group getting 4x benefit from 1 set. this does not fix rmt, since afaik you can still buy the mats but this makes team play pretty much worthless, and to me, that’s a problem (and I don’t play often with team, just want to have the option that does not punish everyone on the team)
but it doesn’t, solo were not screwed, just 4some were 4x more efficient, but if you make solo put 1 set of mats, and for 4some, everyone in party puts 1 set of mats, then it’s equal playing field.
This doesnt matter for fixed groups. Problematic in pub groups.
This is dumbest move ever. Literally no reason to play in groups. Solo players are solo players, established communities from D3 era have plethora of players and impossible to stay solo. D3 era is a decade old mature community.
right, if they put it into mats tab, that fixes the part of the rmt, but the other obv is fixed by having everyone in party put their share…
the problem with mats in tab though is then no life grinders will have major advantage, so i am opposed of that, per say. in some ways it will be d4 paragon since if u can grind massive paragon you will always have more dps, same here, if you have 100x more mats, you can brute force rng. obv if u can trade, you can buy via rmt or whatever, but what’s worse losing players because they cannot compete with no lifers or potential risk of rmt?
Definitely what some people advocated for on these very forums. Grouping is unfair, Duriel runs with 4 people and 1 set of mats is cheating, some one ate my last piece of cheesecake kind of things. So now Blizzard changes a new mechanic and people still complain. Probably not the same people though. I haven’t looked the at OP’s post history so can’t say for certain.
Yea I’m not claiming it would fix it just saying that that was the claim, I personally thought it was a stupid idea. I’ve seen so many posts saying only the person with the mats should get the loot for duriel
Situational. For pub groups /rota, its unfair to solo players. As a fixed group, its the opposite. Different members have different preferences. The group splits in their own time to accumulate mats for their preference of contents. (I dont touch Whipers since s0 unless its WB/Dungon/vault whisper). Some have more free time than others and this system works if you play as a GROUP, not individual.
The best solution is either remove boss summon mats, adjusting drops rates accordingly OR tie amounts of summon mats required as per player in group. This however need to prevent joining party abuse AFTER summoning bosses.
Oh it wasn’t really meant to be taken seriously, just giving examples. I completely agree with you though. Grouping is always unfair in any situation for a solo player. Well shouldn’t say always, some games don’t benefit at all from grouping and it’s easier to go solo, but in most cases where a common goal is being achieved, having more bodies helps.
yes, i am using rmt as a catchall. imagine i sold n item for 5b (i sold many for that in the last 2 seasons) and instead of farming for a week, i traded 5b for those mats… in the rmt example, one could argue that is same… because some people may buy gold on rmt, for example.
my point is, trading is good for the game, yes, rmt is against the eula, but rmt and trading is what makes game longevity and amount of players playing much higher. it may not be a popular opinion and i never bought or sold anything on rmt nor ever play to, but reality is reality, even if we don’t like it.
there is a lot more players outside who’s countrys economy often makes grinding games worthwhile vs having a labor intensive jobs in not so safe environment, so would i want a kid grind d4 to potentially trade and maybe even rmt, vs get maimed by something, i think you know where I am getting at