The game is literally unplayable for couch coop right now!

Dear Blizzard, Dear Diablo IV Team,

I am not writing this to stress the “D4 bad” meme. I am not writing this to hate on the game. On the contrary, I love this game. One of the Christmas presents for my girlfriend was a Hoody with a sketch of the two of us playing Season 6 of D4 (me as Necro, her as Spiritborn).

I am, however, writing this because this is the first season that I do not see myself buying the season pass, because I cannot even see myself reaching level 60.

But first, let me emphasize the relevance of this post. I am a programmer who spends an unreasonable amount of money on technical/electronic hobbies. I have a 4k€ PC (on which I mainly play HotS & FPS), I have every console you can think of (except Xbox lul). I have recently bought a PS5 Pro to have a second PS5 for my girlfriend when she is at her place (though most of the time, we play couch coop games). As I mentioned before, I have bought every season pass of D4 and its most expensive edition and its expansion.

In short, I am THE target audience for this game! I am a casual gamer who spends a stupid amount of money on video games.

Now the reason WHY I am writing this post:

I think the game is in a fine spot when it comes to class balancing and season mechanics. HOWEVER, the game is literally unplayable for console couch coop players. Here are the four most despicable points:

4 - When I start the town portal, the fps drop to ~10 fps. Don’t tell me something like “lul consoles etc.etc.”. This has not been a problem in Seasons 1-6! This is an extremely uncomfortable bug.

3 - My girlfriend and I are both playing necro. When one reaches their max amount of sceletons, the other cannot summon any more sceletons. Typically, she is stuck with 1 warrior or mage, and when she presses the summon button, she buffs the two minions she is having… Again, THIS WAS WORKING IN SEASONS 1-6! How TF do you mess this up? It is a game-breaking bug!

2 - There are numerous posts about the problem of TOO MUCH USELESS CRAP loot. I do not have to reiterate this. But imagine the fun we are having in couch coop with the loot of two people on the screen without the ability to click on the piece you want to pick up… It is unbearably painful. We have stopped picking up any loot - even legendaries - because it is impossible with ~20 blue items lying around.
A potential fix: there is some kind of routine that generates loot. Implement a condition so that when you drop a blue item, instead drop blue salvage mats. When you drop a yellow item, instead drop yellow salvage mats, etc. There can be an easy option in the menu to determine the rarity to which this applies.
What really puzzles me is the fact that I can come up with a bandage solution for this in ~5 min, and I would guess it takes about a day to implement without having any idea about the Blizz Code. Since Blizzard doesn’t seem to have the programming capacities to implement stuff like a loot filter, please give us at least a workaround!

1 - Since the launch of Season 7, we are UNABLE TO SCROLL THROUGH ITEM DESCRIPTIONS!!! HOW TF SHOULD WE DECIDE ON WHICH ITEMS TO KEEP WHEN WE CAN’T EVEN LOOK AT THE LEGENDARY ASPECT?!

HOW DO YOU MESS THIS UP?! THIS IS A CORE UI ELEMENT THAT WAS WORKING FOR YEARS!!!

I have a strong opinion that Blizzard is not testing the game from a couch coop player standpoint. Honestly, we are heartbroken about the current state of the game, and we do not see us picking the game back up until at least SOME of these points are fixed.

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As a primarily couch co-op player, I wholeheartedly agree with this entire post.

The auto salvage is a minor issue I can live with (I think in torment difficulties this is already the case? At least it was in S6). Focus on the other fixed first, IMO.

The FPS issue is VERY annoying. I’ve been playing every season since release and it was never this bad. Vessel of Hatred (S6) was when it first started happening honestly, and now in S7 it’s even worse…… would it be possible to give us some options in game settings over graphics details. I would lower graphics quality in a heartbeat if it meant smoother FPS. But we have no options for it.

Necro minion issue 100%!!! My wife plays necro (I don’t) and this still happens with her ALL the time. So it’s not just caused by 2 necro players. There’s other things that trigger it too (mount/dismounting I think is one of them). We haven’t been able to pinpoint exactly what causes it so we can avoid it, but it’s several things, I feel. We just end up having to have her log out and back in every time to get her minions back. So annoying!

For the scrolling through item description issue, it’s happened a couple times with us as well. I just force close the game and restart console and launch back, and that has fixed it for me.

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Thank you for youe message. it is good to know that we are not the only ones suffering right now.

Especially the Necro minion issue! We were going crazy about this. It happens every 3-5 minutes for us. The time is probably sped up when playing as two necros compared to only one necro. Good to know that relogging solves the issue temporarily. We also noticed that completely changing the Book of the dead sometimes helps. Try if that works for you!
We also tried the unique ring that consumes corpses automatically, but that also didn’t work. In fact, it triggers the bug much quicker than manual summoning.

Regarding the scrolling bug: have you noticed the bug reappearing after restarting the console? I dont want to do a whole restart-login etc cycle to enable scrolling for a few minutes.

Let’s hope Blizzard comes up with a fix soon :slight_smile: I would really like to play D4 again …

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I didn’t have the fps issue, maybe I got lucky (playing on regular PS5).

As for not being able to summon minions, they tend to “get lost”, like they chase a random mob off the screen and stay there after the fight is over. They don’t run to you, don’t teleport, etc. My wife switched to no-undead build because of that. You can backtrack and “collect” your minions as they run to you once they’re in certain range but that shouldn’t be an issue.

Scroll bug is also annoying, thankfully restarting the game fixes it but still. we didn’t have it before.

Truth is they really need to just remove couch co-op. I love it and enjoyed it playing with my best friend however the online multiplayer option is just so superior and it is obvious these engineers cannot make it work.

If they do some people would stop playing (like me) because I’m not buying second console /gaming pc for that.

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There’s always one of these guys lurking around: “I don’t want to use this. Please take it away from everyone so I don’t have to make any personal choices.”

Stay in your lane.

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Yes I know make me out to be the bad guy.

If you want it to stay then that is fine, but it is obvious they do not see it as a priority to fix.

So keep the buggy couch co-op if you want.

I hope there comes a time in your life where you need couch coop - and that it works at that point in time. Hopefully then, you will realise why couch coop is superior in every important way.

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Couch coop isn’t superior. Online multiplayer isn’t superior. They’re just different features that give you certain options. They both have perks that are mutually exclusive.

Neither one is going away nor will either one ever be free of bugs/problems… because that’s what defines D4. Hopefully we can get some of this crap fixed before the next wave of crap rears its ugly head.

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true, I wanted to say that at a certain point, one option can become way superior for you personally. I phrased it poorly but I didnt want to say that one is always superior to another ^^ obviously, all game modes should be working because there will always be people for which that particular mode is the one.

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I just want to be able to play minion necro on couch coop with my girlfriend’s sorc. A boy can dream.

and also be able to see the bottom of every window.

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100% this ! I am asking myself if they even playtest for couch coop … :confused:

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They playtest everything… to make sure the shop notifications work as intended.

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:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
True and let’s all make sure those “New item” Marks are popping up for both players!

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@Intenso @Hex

Not sure why the negatives thrown at me just for pointing out the obvious?

I’ve couch co-oped a LOT with my best friend since 7th grade (I’m currently 52). It is super fun and nothing beats the immediate reactions. I get it and have done it.

However the limitations, restrictions, and just plain defects in the current system are obviously something Blizzard is NOT interested in addressing.

Xbox live is superior in every way other than sitting next to your best friend.

I fixed it for you. Now it’s a true statement.

Pretty sure changing someone’s quote is against most forums ToS…so you might want to edit that.

To your post since I made the post then that is obvious it is to me…why would I post something that is superior for someone else?

Now you’re just trolling and contradicting yourself. I’m out. See you never.

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