The ARPG genre can't stand on itself anymore

[JeanFrancois-1217]

@anon78045278

And if I had the final answer, I wouldn’t be making a thread in a forum.
I would be with my suitcase at the door of Blizzard to sell the solution.

…Is that how it works? I went down the naive route with forum threads:

Dynamic Actions

Expanding from here. Dynamic actions are what I’m calling groups of additional actions from which you make an execution selection in combat. They contrast to traditional fixed actions that are chosen out of combat, are limited to few action slots, and are constantly used. Dynamic actions would work through button remapping, specifically of the four ability buttons that are not basic and core actions. Dynamic Runes and Runewords In Diablo III runes altered the form of abilities. A dynamic versi…

In short you are correct - this ARPG genre is inadequate. Its niche fans do not see it, even though many admit its flaws (its mindlessness, in particular), but the comparative lack of interest and its relatively low ceiling is becoming undeniable.

At the risk of getting philosophical I’m starting to suspect the popularity of games is tied to human nature. I think the fundamental flaw of this genre is its effective assumption that people are mindless. They may appear rather mindless depending on where you look, but time and time again it has been shown in gaming that people respond to being challenged. As far as ARPGs are concerned I believe the biggest leap lies in what characters can do. Six actions often being reduced to the incessant spamming of a single one is contrary to human nature. Progression is enough to keep some people around but when you combine the superficiality of what players are able to do with a lack of challenge the game really becomes Diablo IV: The Biggest Idiot. Elon Musk has like 11 kids and works at 4 different companies - he’s the literal meme of who this game was meant for. But a stupid experience is not what the market is looking for.

@anon78045278

Without seasons, players of ARPG don’t stay in the game.

Seasons are ok.

@OliveShark-3410

Because all this Diablo like loot based System ARPG lack of content and it rely on repeatly grinding and leveling to sustain the game play. This formula was working in Diablo 2 because leveling was slow and reaching maximum level was a great achievement back then.

Diablo 2 worked because it was novel. There is no novelty now. Amusingly, the mediocre developers and dimwitted fans of this genre take pride in not being innovative and trying to be like Diablo 2. True story.

@Blueskies-1583

I will argue that people get bored, sooner or later, doing the same game play loop over and over. This applies to all games with a few exceptions. For example, I don’t think I will ever get bored with chess, because each playthrough is a bit different.

Anyway, I have no idea how the devs can fix this. I’m just a player that like to consume content. Keep me entertained and I will keep playing

@Bolander-1515

Gameplay wise, it is very simple and Grinding = repetition, this combination will eventually it causes fadigue in most people.

The gameplay is this genre’s fundamental weakness.

@ChefRef77-1408

Plenty of games are tanking these days and that is due in large part to questionable choices made when releasing new incomplete games too early at full price. Sadly when it comes to AAA games there are deadlines to be met and shareholders to please.

I think the entire market is trash.

@Warlyx-21265

Arpg need to innovate , gear grinding is ok , but we gonna need to spice the game somehow , maybe take a look at what ppl like, or add stuff from other genres.

You can’t innovate if you have no imagination and ambition.