The fundamental problem still lies in the RNG.
Please Blizzard, I don’t care how much you have to nerf things to compensate for the love of God just let us pick when tempering - and remove tempering affixes from Masterworking for that matter to balance it out a bit.
Who cares if you can reroll if never gives you the right option
Yep. Treating symptoms as usual rather than making the tempering system not total trash.
It would help if at the very least you couldn’t roll a worse version of the same affix you currently have. That shouldn’t even be possible.
the fundamental problem lies in people playing Arpgs that eventually shouldnt.
First, let me say that I am fine with bricking items and always have been. Having said that, though, the majority of the playerbase is NOT okay with that. The fact that Blizzard still insist to make re-tempering nearly as hard as getting ubers, can only mean that they still have next to nothing as end-game content in the expansion, in order to keep player retention time. Had they had enough content, they would just satisfy the majority of the community and get rid of the bricking possibility. I am glad that I still haven’t pre-ordered and am waiting to see the full gameplay by the streamers, once it’s released.
Sure they can improve on tempering but having an item to reset it is still very nice to have and is more then just a bandaid fix
Why are you playing an ARPG if you dislike rng
In fact, I don’t understand the resistance of remove the limit chances on tempering, if you allow the reset of the tempering but you make it expensive in materials and gold, that encourages players more to replay and give more hours to the game, but if you simply brick the items, creates the opposite effect of great frustration and not wanting more, because the perfect item with 3GA is super rare. For example, I have never had a useful item with 3 GA dropped, and the possibility of it being obsolete is incredibly ridiculous and meaningless
Let us pick tempering? This is a joke suggestion right?
It’s the whole point of the system, to customize legendaries and differentiate them from Uniques.
The RNG should be in the range of the rolls, not getting the affix you wanted. I would much rather just be able to pick the affix that I want and deal with a much lower floor on those affixes, than completely leave it up to chance.
That’s both stupid and it doesn’t make any sense I mean what is the Blacksmith doing just hammering at random and hoping it works out ? What?
Especially since Tempering can’t be done on Uniques and is the first step of the grind for optimizing gear, it’s asinine to have it so reliant on RNG when the real grind should be Masterworking
This would be a cool option, actually, if you could choose to like “seal” a temper and it would let you choose what you wanted (from a book in the right category) but you get the min roll and you can’t masterwork it. I think they would have to make the min rolls a lot weaker and maybe only let you do that for one of the temper slots on an ancestral, but I think it would have a nice property of being a fallback option but still being something your character can grow beyond.
I don’t mind the RNG itself so long as I can get another go at a better roll on all post-drop item parameters. If I have to un-brick it 5x to get those godly rolls, so be it. Masterworking works off a nearly identical premise and people don’t seem to mind it there. The co-op mandatory nature of where we have to go to get the item is a bit disappointing, but with a party finder I probably won’t mind too much. 
Exactly what I’m saying, this is a bandaid on top of a bandaid. It’s shoddy and poorly thought out. There is a nugget of good in the tempering system, but it needs more refinement.
How about you stop whining about an arpg when RNG is the CORE DNA of these types of games. Threads like this are undeniable proof that you tempering crybabies will ALWAYS be whining about it and will never be happy, no matter what Blizzard do to cater to your braindead crying.
“Just let us pick our powerful stats!!” GTFO. Tempering affixes are some of the most powerful in the game. No, they shouldn’t just be easily applied to your items. Go play something else if this is too hard for you.
its no longer tempering at that point, it just becomes enchanting at the occulist.
What if they changed it so you can pick the affix you want if you solve a matrix algebra problem, like Alan Wake 2?
we should be able to adjust the temper via occultist like the other affixes. The enchantment roll would just roll within the temper group of choices and their respective percentage. Still love rng though
Not to mention its tied to group content…
Give me true RNG then, I’m so sick of rolling the same stat 5 times in a row. In a supposedly true random roll I should have 25% per roll to hit the same stat, that’s a 0.09765625% chance of happening.
Not impossible but happening back to back several times? I can’t believe it’s not weighted and rigged against you.
All I’m asking is a fair chance of rolling what I want.
They have just turned tempering into baby mode with this scroll and RIP solo players with new content. How trash do they want to make expansion. Only good thing atm is new class