Yeah been playing blizzard games a long long time, this just is not going to happen lol. Best we can hope for is some sort of AOE dmg avoidance / resists. I seriously doubt the AI will be improved much over the course of this game…
I agree this is very annoying…
I also agree on this.
Ah, yes, pre-the-place-where-it-actually-matters…what a stupid take
Bro…WT2 is so easy, and you still did bad lol
You are welcome. if you want a quick update, im currently on nightmare 70 with minions but i think i’ve reach the max potential of the build.
I’ve been testing and testing but it seems like some dungeons are just out of reach. I menaged to stack up 500% minion life bonus, armor in all gear, resistances and paragons, i can do the damage to kill elites but it’s way different now.
Minions just doens’t have the RAW dps to kill enything at this point in the game, you are forced to rely on the Mendeln ring procs (i think it’s ok that you need specific items to be more competitive), but minions can’t stand any AOE damage.
Fire/lightning/poison pretty much melts them. Also at this difficulty you can instant trash any keystone with the “Suppressor” and “Shade” affix.
The first one makes your minions do 0 damage for whatever reason. It feels like once the minions are inside the bubble, they have 0 PARAGONS bonus and mendeln cannot proc.
The Shade affix makes again, your minions totally numb. If they are hit by the shadow they will stand inside it doing nothing for the intire duration. You cannot move them out.
The fact that some affix can invalidate your build it’s ok, it’s a matter of strenght and weakness in your inner character. What isn’t ok is minions getting melted at nightmare 70 with 500% HP bonus, paragons, and glyphs minions related (golem, warrior, mage, deadriser) all level 21. This means nightmare 100 cannot be achived with a minion build in the current state of the game.
The best i’ve cleared with minions has been nightmare 75 and my gear is pretty much BIS at this point. I know kripparian menaged to do nightmare 78 with 0 attempts left and his minions getting melted by everything, so we pretty much reach the pinnacle of the build, unfortunately.
For those who wants to compete on high tier nightmare dg looks like you have to drop minions and go shadowcleave/bone spear build, or wait for a buff (currently i’ve stopped playing the game hoping in a buff)
For clearing T4 only and casually running around doing stuffs, minions are fine with the right stats.
For everything else, just sacrifice your minions, even tho it means your not playing the primary feature of the class.
Something in the minions stats and damage coefficents is broken, but that can be fixed.
The only thing that scare my at this point is the total silence of blizzards DEVS on the issue, we know they are busy on many things atm and im afraid they dont care about this specific problem since Necromancers in general have at least 2 builds to compete lategame.
Well it wasn’t a joke. I didn’t even build into minions pre wt4, just talents and they murdered. The only issue was a fire champ or big groups of mobs with aoe attacks.
Because big brains around here think a group of mobs hit 1 time every 5 seconds or something so that 30% max hit in a instance really does anything.
1 flame mob legit murders them solo. All you hear is skeles dying.
I went full summoner build with 5 minion aspects and ALL of their points.
I picked 1 bone spear aspect for filler and that ends up doing 80% of my damage
Yea I was bone spear as well, just minions for tank/mages for essence. The moment you get a decent weapon though it makes that stuff sleep walker even for a person not building them… Def in the open world.
I just got lucky with a decent 817 scythe early on that was worth the swap. Not saying their damage is good, because it’s def not… But trying to stress how easy open world was for me even without going full into them.
Hens why I say its pretty pointless talking about anything pre nightmares.
There is a guy though that posted a video a while ago. He was in tier 64? doing okay. But the damage was def lower then mine. Also relied on Medelin for most of his damage and was level 98.
Hey gamers. Kripp put out a new video recently showcasing his summon necro build.
For those interested:
Use it/dont use it.
Have a great day everyone!
I want but i cant because the key item is missing 
No matter how many nighmare i run… never ring
Somehow, everything you said had nothing to do with what I was saying. atta boy.
the pre-the-place-where-it-actually-matters?
???
It honestly feels like we’re just in beta right now and they skipped straight from alpha into release after making sure it wouldn’t crash when played.
There’s so many issues/problems out of the gate with so many classes and stats right now, its almost funny.
I like Kripp but even the man says it does 50-80% of what a bone spear build can do for damage. Also runs off the unique ring I said you need really for the build to even take off. Which is also RNG procs.
The biggest upside to the build is tankyness. Yes people can use it but relying on a unique that some people wont even see. Isn’t the most realistic thing to tell people. Very misleading.
If the shadowblight bug was fixed it would do a bit more just from talents.
Yeah level 88 Necro summoner here, I agree they are very weak and enemies completely ignore them. Personally I’m struggling to do anything higher in NM dungeons than T40 seems I’m stuck there. They got a little bit better after I found the ring of mendeln but not by much tbh its not enough to make them viable when you have Barbarians, Rogues and sorcs hell even Druids probably clearing T100’s
This build is very dependent on the Mendeln unique. Don’t run it if you don’t have it or the aspect of ultimate shadow yet.
Run his other one first instead. https://app.mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/necromancer/krips-necro-build
Imagine if all they do with minions is “Minion damage increased by 10%”
I’ll flip a table if that happens
I got 2 x mendeln rings at level 84 so I’m thinking you have to be level 84 for it to drop maybe? I was farming for it for 3 days before but when I was 84 it dropped.
enemies ignore them is one thing… butcher won’t even attack the golem when taunted/provked by golem skill.
and fire element absolutely rip minions apart. (they did last a bit longer after I have 180% minion health)
I have @ Lv80 with 7k atk power my minions still hit so weak. lol
and nerf other necro skills for that 10% minion buff 