Sorry, but this game is too easy. Not sure what the fuss is about

I read how folks get weak and I wonder if they mean “rogue”, but then yea I see comments about how rogues are weak? So here are some videos … at level 72 (mind you I’ve been finding this easy for awhile now, I just finally hit a point where I cant stay quiet). This all started when I killed the butcher in less than 10 seconds.

so at Level 72, what should be a challenge?

30% crit rate, 240% crit damage (I actually went low for some trades, my max is 322%)

1 level above?
youtu.be/hT7_3bqLnrA

No? too fast, how bout a elite 74 that roams the hell tides:
youtu.be/ll-KoYRX0A4

Your right, that 74 was already half health… how about 76ers x 3:
youtu.be/iTMuI8-jR1A

Lastly 72 vs 80…
youtu.be/OVDEKO92m1E - I admit I died in this dungeon, but it was the waller flukes…

I remember when these dungeon bosses were epic battles… but like wtf? I am getting bored. I am also getting worried cause the WT4 mobs are at 73… so I am slowly going to get less and less xp.

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Are you saying they dont go higher than lvl73?

Dude, you are getting the whole point wrong. Dungeons are supposed to be switched to nightmare with 20+ level. Why are you comparing something within 10 levels of yourself?
Anything which is not more than 20 levels above you is not worth mentioning.

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I don’t know if your being sarcastic… because I dunno why there is an incentive to battle mobs 20 levels higher.

  1. Exp bonus is capped for only a few levels higher.
  2. I still have the opportunity to get level 800+ items (and use some already) within the 10 levels.
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To push nightmare dungeon? The incentives are 1. higher tier of NM gives you more exp for glyphs
2. let’s you brag about it

He isn’t being sarcastic. The complaints you’re reading are about nm 50 and 70+ dungeons. The very upper end of content. People can make all kinds of builds work in the open world at tier 4 and in normal dungeons. The complains are about top tier nightmare dungeons.

Also, concerning open world mobs: they scale with you all the way to 95. Once your gear is pretty well optimized you might actually lose ground to them as you level if you have good gear early because they will scale faster than you. Lvl 75-80 seem to be the sweet spot and then probably again at 95+ but I’m not there yet.

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If people are doing dungeons with mobs level 100-105 while being 75-80 themselves, how they can lose ground in open world by reaching lvl 85-95?

I have to admit SgtSlaughter has a point, there’s currently no reason to go beyond level ~80 nor fighting monsters above your level. Gear can max out as soon as level 60 and all you’re basically doing at higher level is increase your chances to find said gear, and reducing the inherent penalties to damage and armor for fighting higher level monsters, up to level 100.

That said, claiming the game is too easy but you’re dying vs monsters, even if it’s just shenanigans and BS, is a bit ignorant.

Ahhh well… I showed my lvl 80 encounter which is 8 levels higher than me, the battle didn’t last 10 seconds and that was the dungeon boss. I think elites in the mobs last a longer.

Comparing that to level 1-40 where dungeon bosses made me pull up sleeves and figure out patterns and strategies that might last minutes. And that’s when the dungeon boss was the same level.

Shouldn’t THAT feeling continue?

No it shouldn’t continue…. This isn’t a souls-like game. Generally, arpgs are more power fantasy and outgearing as much as possible.

Personally my goal is generally to have some gear and ability combo that kills things before I ever see them on screen. I wanna hear crap dying 2 rooms down the hall lol

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Pushing higher tier nightmare dungeons should be done when you reach level 100, because then you stop scaling. While you’re scaling, might as well do dungeons around your level since you can still be gaining XP.

Does anyone else have the vibe that this is like saying D3 is too easy when one keeps playing T16 and does not push greater rifts?

Cool story. Killing mobs a few levels above you. Much wow. Cant wait for you to try uber lilith without cheesing her or NM 75+

I hear ya guys I do! It’s just I feel there is a gap… or just a not knowing what my capability is until I try something.

Literally takes a few seconds to create a higher level NM sigil and give it a go.

Theres no gaps. You can do NM dungeons from 1 to 100.

We all thought the same thing, then we hit NM 70+ and one skeleton archer 1 shots you no matter what, lvl 10 shadows, 85% armor, 12k hp, dmg reduction from being in a trap…it doesnt matter.

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Regarding nm dungeons, this is not an increase of difficulty in combat mechanically - rather the opposite.
Just a check if your gear/build can oneshot/permacc mobs before they oneshot you.

In general i agree with op. Combat in early game is much more enjoyable than endgame stuff. I had hopes it will be different than d2/d3 because in early development d4 was designed as souls-like game but it didn’t make it.
At least with melee rogue there is something to do during fight, but i couldn’t imagine just spinning for hours like barbs do

Rare elites should be harder than this:

youtube. com/clip/Ugkx2SYg6G8NACVyhb8w9hwh1jCn-DMBlTbt

If you want a bigger challenge, play Hardcore. Easy solution.

Character xp is the same regardless if we do NM dungeons that are the same level as us or 10 lvl above? I thought the higher lvl the bigger xp