I was watching moxxy earlier and chatt was saying good things about this patch so i decided to reinstall this pile of crap game and give it a try. I took my 96 super op ice shard sorc into nm t51 started blasting away than i heard “out of mana” over and over than boom, i died. I ran back to the op elite that killed me started blasting him with ice shard than i heard that beautiful voice yell “out of mana” than another enemy creeped up behind me and BAM, 1shot, I’m dead. Whew man i feel the power of this update i was having so much fun i tried until i couldn’t try no more because i used up all of my revives got kicked out of dungeon. This game is so awesome im having so much fun right now that i decided to uninstall the game again. Goodbye. 
devs be like…
“there is nothing wrong with fiery surge”
“if fiery surge is not working, it’s the players not using it correctly”
“fiery surge is bugged but not needed”
“anyone who uses fiery surge obviously don’t deserve to have any mana”
Skill issue for sure.
Idk i was told im pretty skillful, just ask your mom. {°○°}
I asked her, she said you were indeed skillful at being bad at this game.
Not going to lie, your mom built like a druid. Lol.
I can imagine it feels like that when youre a scrawny guy with zero muscles.
I only have a sorc on eternal and am playing seasonal a lot but I played my sorc, a cobbled together chain lightning build, for about 10 minutes last night and my first impression was that I no longer have mana problems so I can spec out of crackling energy and possibly arch lash as well so that’s good. Also my damage seems improved.
Edit to add…
Oh wow, mom jokes. 
If you’re having mana issues, then you don’t have the right aspects to give you the synergy that you need. Either that or they are not high/max rolled ones because I’m playing ice shards and have zero mana issues, in fact I’m almost always on full mana, shredding T55-T60’s at level 90.
tried to play my fire sorc after patch , it’s still beyond pathetic how bad it is 
NM 51 is easy with my Ice Shard Sorc in Eternal. I have no mana problems.
If this was Seasonal, my Ice Shard Sorc will clear NM 100 easy.
More than likely it’s build and skill issue.
If you have mana issues prior to this patch, you will still have it because the patch doesn’t address mana for Ice Shard builds. You should have read the notes first. Moxxy is good but always verify everything you hear.
You made a good decisions it’s not the game for you clearly.
Sounds like a skill issue if you’re getting crushed by me playing chain lightning. I’m running 50’s pretty easily at 84 - they can just kill me too.
Define garbage.
If you are looking for some very op build and that can slain everything in your screen easily without brain. You can go play druid, if you want to play it with stephen hawking style, go for a bonespear mancer.
I am worry about if we are asking too much, then every class would be the same. Sorc is not as OP and brainless as other classes atm, but still playable. If you find it is not fun, try another class. The game and classes are not well designed, buff underperform class will ruin the game. (The game is already in a very bad shape.)
Builds are always going to be subjective to play style. Sorry to say but I am sitting on the fence here as I do great in high density AoE fights, but I do run out of mana in single target or if only a couple of elites are left to kill off. I am an ice shards/frost nova build, using ice armour, frost bolts, avalanche and deep freeze, only the teleport as a non-frost skill. I use the life on kill and the mana every 25% of health restored, so the more I kill I can see my globe almost empty, but instantly full of both life and mana. It is a tricky style but it works for me. No, I cannot get past a level 43 NMD, but, honestly, I just no longer care. I try my luck each day for a couple of dungeon runs and check out a hell tide if its up. Yesterday I was fighting the beast world boss in the Fractured Peaks with a lv 84 player, likely a rogue, he did the majority of damage as I am 100 and barely scratch the boss, like a flea. The night before I tried my luck at the wandering death world boss with a lv 72 Necro, we only managed 1.5 bars of the boss’s health for the 15 minutes of the fight we had, I died enough times to have to go repair twice before my armour was about to break. My build will never be able to take out a boss without drastic changes. I have not one intention of making a meta build ever. This is an Eternal toon, as I don’t do seasons. Frost all the way or I go broke so they say.
I made this reply on the grounds that the game does need improvement. It is going to be a slow process and not everyone is going to get what they want out of it. I know that for myself, I have other options and they are more than enough to keep me happy if Diablo IV is not going to be an enjoyable adventure for me.
Everybody seems to forget that. They post such negative commentary on the game, sure it needs reprogramming and more testing. If nothing is done, we have other games we can play. The sad part of leaving posts on forums is the hostility that gets tossed back and forth from players in politically entrenched views. So much hate and anger, I feel the disappointment, I experience it myself. Its not the end of the world though.
Simple solutions are not apparent to these super angry and upset people and neither do the ecstatically happy people see the performance issues and game play problems. The two factions want to glorify the game ignoring deficiencies, or want to totally trash it and those who support it. Please just see it for what it is and walk away or play, but if you have something that can help devs make better changes, by all means, say it, we need constructive criticism to help and insights into game issues to fix problems that spawn from these scenarios that play out in the realms. As a programmer of software since the 1980’s, creating stuff like this is extremely demanding, and no one ever see all the things that can go wrong because not everyone can play like everyone else. If you understand what I just said, thanks for being patient. But seriously, like those house reno shows, love it or list it, move on in life to the next challenge. There is only so much a comment will ever do for another person.
I appreciate all of the things you players have said, it brings a lot of detail to the forefront of this game and even the issues with damaging video card’s vram and gpus and possibly more of a player’s pc. I respect those things as these are people who are offering advice and giving warnings they have experienced in this particular game. Thanks so much.
nuf said for now, time to play WoW.
Don’t run out of mana then!
You have to ask yourself this……
Why am I suffering through these changes when 4 necros can annihilate a world boss faster than I can kill a normal boss. They have better survivability and damage. They get vulnerability basically for free.
Dude you crack me up.
Anyhow I’ve pushed into NM 52 at level 96 and have few problems. I don’t use roi anymore and have a defensive chest and pants. I’m running an ice shards/blizz hybrid. No glass cannon passive. I’m sorry your having trouble, I’m not gonna be rude and say it’s your skill but something is off with your current build. I don’t think you have enough defense or mitigating passives.
I like playing sorc but fully realize other classes are stronger at present.
I had been asking that but still no answer, instead we got that massive nerf patch.
I am speedrunning level 55 dungeons with my level 80 Sorcerer. Blizzard build with barber here. Stuff is getting demolished and I am also much tankier now than my level 100 character on eternal realm. I do not recognise that sorcerer is very weak. We are in a much improved state now.