So the curve is all wrong when your class is too infront, form the perspective of non league play

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Don’t know how or why, i don’t care, but the point is it needs to be fixed and why isn’t it?

Why did it get this out of control and who let this happen? maybe some people are not meant to be calling the shots idk.

But my feedback, is its wrong, there is nothing to gain at all being this ahead of the curve, sure you answered they meme and youtube BS of not being slow, but now i am so fast the game fell behind.

46 grinding Cursed Halls fun is it ? fast is it? these people lack laterally thinking and game dev thinking don’t listen to this. They may offer other great ideas, but this one is not.

Why? The simple answer is all this grinding is NMD glyph XP i am not getting, so i am literally Xp farming now since 29!!

Yes i am gearing my loot to to a sacred and that was fun, engaging with loot is fun now thank you. It took 20mins out of the hours i have been grinding xp though, now its just a matter of getting my resistance on gear to not get one shot, which will mean 50 and paragon needs to catch up.

That makes this game worse than arpgs made for ps2. This needs fixing asap please .

And where ever this is coming from, is thinking in a box.

I have also used pretty generic and non class/build specifics here, so i dare so i can do this with any and all classes and builds. Which means its a core balance issue of some kind. Power creep or whatever they call it idk, its wrong please fix it.

Makes no sense at all to be killing elites in capstone having that much power ahead of the game, no class ability i skipped that, and no paragon, not available yet since i am sub 50 , but a fallen lunatic can one shot me since my resistance is behind and i need to wait for it to unlock basically, as i minmax sacred gear finds…i mean really not great stuff imo.

Do i feel powerful, yeah. cool, but without a game to play what am i doing “killing monsters” cool. No other game lets me do that? oh wait they do but they also provide a game at the same time.

I tried in this one to be polite, i am frustrated so i am blunt and to the point, no offense meant.

An example of what would be fun is if i can do level 55 side quests SH and HT and not be at the so ahead of the curve i can kill everything at level 70 worth, making me not feel powerful, i just feel like i am doing nothing, since i am already pushing ahead due to my “veteran” player skill so to speak. Be totally fine if i was like this and at WT2. But i pushed to 3 super early, and still no game to play levels on this map are weak, i tread water and cannot get to the next map yet only due to defense gear checks.

Solution Simple Idea-

This is why imo, they only way to give blasters the fast track to endgame is to make that campaign skip button be the gate, not whatever is going on atm.

We cant serve both cakes at the same time, well you could , but i am looking at simple and fast way to solve the issue. At least for now, and get intricate later if you want.

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Im going to be totally honest, after reading that I am not even sure what you are upset about…

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I was about to say something similar, I could barely get it.

I think it is another post regarding early game being too easy due to recent changes like tempering that also leads to power creep.

I think next one will be the game is too hard and boring.

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I think part of the issue would be solved if they spread out the carry over points through leveling, instead of giving it to you up front.

The rest is just balancing the broken garbage.

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i lost braincells reading this

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you both cant read or are trolling , or soemthing. Oh he said something must be mad. LOL.

The curve is wrong and gated for one playstyle, this is not making a game. So either they need to hear this, or the are a scam and i am passive income to lies if you want to get political about it.

I was trying to remain neutral to that and discuss how far ahead of the curve i can be, and how that hurts the experience as far as the game is concerned i made that crystal clear so you read nothing. you know this, its why you are gaslighting my post.

Its also how i know i am right, you lost braincells because you only care about yourself and you didn’t read. this post is open to both playstyles but since you are trolling keep trolling.

I lost braincells too.

You guys are really afraid of loosing your poker machine or something? we can all have a slice of cake, if you read it all that would have been clear, but you didn’t.

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Please poker is a skill-based game, I do take offense to this terrible reference. You may want to use something like “Roulette” or “slot machines” instead. :hamster: :popcorn:

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This whole post is just a bunch of rambling gibberish. In all seriousness, could you rewrite it so it makes sense and shows some coherent thought?

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I am just saying this is where the curve is, not the game its too easy, but how it impacts it.

So that is a fact. If they want to offer more than endgame, this is the problem that needs to be fixed.

Simple way to do so is through the skip campaign button, that can be your trigger for weather you want this new power creep only endgame matter game this league style game.
Or if you dont. its that simple guys. You are all mad at me for what saying that? come on.

I can think out of the box why cant you?

I want you to have your league style game, that is fine, i get it , i really do. But this is not about that.

This is about the curve and how for players looking for a level one play the game on Nightmare mode arpg. Not skip campaign and play endgame as fast as possible. i want you to have that, the game should so chill. we are on the same side i think.

You are too defensive of this gameplay, its honestly mind blowing.

Whats your problem? Seriously mate , whats up you so bad you need to be a jerk?

Cant handle intellectual discussion or title triggered most likely, too many words after that.

The curve is wrong do you enjoy leveling and gaining nothing? you could be running glyhs but no you cant.? you dont play the game thats why.

Its a complex article not for everyones reading level.

I am playing the game as i write this to give feedback to improve it. you dont want that or? what

do you want me to stream it and discuss so you have pictures to see what is in front of your own eyes?

It goes beyond me being good, its just not wright. since being good = stalling, hitting a massive wall, how is that powercreep? its not. Its nothing to do with it. though its is part of it.

i love tempering , never said a bad word about it.

You know atleast i am trying to help, instead of attacking the community like you are, its tiring to play and write it up, sorry its not up to your standard of legibility. but i dont have skills in that area :slight_smile: we all lack somewhere buddy

Honestly you want better write ups for my free labour? pay me. Otherwise its going to be written rough and you can get out of your head with applying tone and context.

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Hey OP, even if you use some kind of AI to make it readable and not a damn hieroglyph, the core of your ideas is just stupid, do your self a favor and stop typing essays of nonsense, only making you look like a fool. And… Be concise ty.

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Hey, what words are you speaking of, is there a problem? what nerve did i hit?

I support the game, so where is the personal issue with me coming from? Or are you just picking fights?

As far as i know i am offering free feedback to the game, i wasn’t complaining, just saying how its is for a fact.

Nothing more, i can stream it right now if that would make you believe i am actually testing this game.

Oh right since i am not in the payroll its a complaint got it. is that right?

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Was this post translated from a different language? It’s kinda hard to follow.

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Well if you played the game you would follow it.

Otherwise you are tired, or dont understand my bad grammar, since i am not a American. What can i do.

I mean no offense i am only talking about the facts of my play through. It is what it is. I have no emotional care about it, other than personally i dont like it, even playing league style its not functional. Its treading water while you wait for paragon to kick in, over 10 levels early. whats hard to follow.

To break it down paragon starts at 50.

I am in WT3 at 29 until 50 i cannot use or spend XP on glyphs, so i am levelling and that is it. until the game catches up. and then i can spend paragon and take a dump on WT3 and move into 4.

So in a way i am carrying a handicap for “being good” as the game stops me progressing.

If you think that is good gameplay great, to me its wrong.

So MY SOLUTION was to offer players a gate of choice, with the skip campaign button.

Why because many dont want the challenge of tier to tier right. So you cannot fix it any other way, other than forcing it one way or another and that means one type of player is going to cry and make a video about it, so i look for ways that all diablo fans can play and it not be silly.

If you try to rebalance now with poer creep where do we get?

Back to launch that everyone hates and crys about feeling weak because they dont understand the game design? I dont know i dont have all the answers and here i am just giving the facts of my druids run.

Any way i am burnt out, this is exhausting. I tried. Good day gamers i mean no offense. I just want a better game for us.

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If what I think you’re trying to say is the pacing of the early game could use some improvement then I’d say I agree.

I don’t see it as a penalty for being good though. Most people get to the next world tier way early, so it’s not being good it’s just doing what the average player does. World tier 3 takes about an hour or 2 to get past so I don’t think it’s holding anyone back.

But overall I think moving between world tiers should be something more significant and actually test your readiness to be there. The capstone dungeons should reflect the proper difficulty of the worlds tiers so you actually do need to be 50 to be in WT3 and bump WT4 from 70 to 80 again with the appropriate difficulty.

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Well i said kind of because it is, i am playing but achieve no progression. So its a negative to be in WT3 early, loot is locked and paragon is locked, so each minute i play i am stalled out.

Before it was more in line with a normal game, and you maybe got in early by a few levels but it wasn’t this long so i count it as a penalty, there is nothing to be gained.

If you think beating A level 20 sigil NMD at 52, no paragon spent, no spirit boons quest finished is normal great. To me this is not. What it means no of these WT3 systems mean anything for “being good” i say it like that since its not hard to do imo.Does it really matter its not a feeling of reward but rather this makes no sense and i cant wait to get out of it.

Yes pacing. Progression, the character is ahead of that curve by miles.

What you said about the WT yes i agree, and also within margin it wasn’t perfect before but far closer and that was fine. i liked that. some builds or class i got a few levels early some i didn’t . atm its the furthest i have ever been Infront of the pacing curve. if that s what you want to call it.

And that wouldn’t be a bad thing IF i wasn’t stalled out because of it. (waiting for loot, paragon etc.

And the other thing form a non league perspective is the content that gets washed out. That is where the skip campaign button as a gate/trigger for league non league style idea comes from

as of right now its all the same no matter what you choose.

That is where its gets hard to type about it, where its not a bad thing to be good and smash through the tiers, thats ok.

I am thinking of the game as a game in two ways and maybe that is where its confusion to read somtimes.
One supports the league style getting to WT4 fast if you are good.

The other want a non league campaign style option to make all content viable to play at nightmare plus difficulty.

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What do you mean by league?

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So league is my way to try to separate the way i feel the game is right now only offering that Endgame “league” experience and i am trying to avoid stepping on those toes as i know they get protective of thats all a game is in arpgs.

So i am trying to look at it from two angles.

If the game only wants to be a tutorial with endgame seasonal leagues and the story is simply lore than this isnt the games full potential or its no longer what i look for in arpgs.

But i struggle to say that with out stepping on toes and people think i hate endgame or something and i have every calculous blaster at me. lol. So that’s what i mean by all that.

If you plat POE its a term used there also, and i feel that separates the way you play it, more or less.

D4s got a problem since launch managing the player base on that one so yeah its tough.

If D4s goal is to do that seamless i understand but i am not sure if it will work long term? maybe it will but idk.

I would give the game a go playing more like launch but with all the new loot and such.

So non league as i describe it would mean eternal or the campaign button whatever would offer a game more like playing torchlight or chaosbane whatever and from level 1 we select our starting difficultly , not have boosted xp, and can enjoy a harder game in the story content and rewards like open world and all that, but that is another topic tbh.

i would call it seasonal but there is so little difference in the modes campaign/eternal has boosted XP also, its all the same so i felt it wouldn’t define my point.

The loot though that works and has been fun the whole time. So yeah well done on that imo. it feels fun to build the gear out. No matter which WT.
And the combat makes it fun so its not all doom and gloom. Still a game, Still fun.

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This doesnt make any sense.

What article are you talking about? No one has mentioned anything about any article.

Not attacking any community. I am just pointing out your long rant of gibberish doesnt make any sense. It is full of incomplete sentences and incoherent thought.

Again, this makes no sense. If you cannot form simple sentences, then you probably havent put any real thought into whatever your opinion is. Everything you have written is a bunch of disconnected rambling nonsense. Please try again, and put some thought into it.

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Sorry boss i am typing like i am chatting , you want more effort than that, get a lawyer and sue me. Forum grammar nerds, you are a breed.

I dont care, your problems are just that yours. Dont like it dont read it. :slight_smile: simple.

Can the game not have more than one dimension?

and even then there are issues in some ways to be ironed out, doesn’t mean i hate or don’t play it or don’t put thought into it.

If the game stood on its own i wouldn’t be here. If it defines itself for once, then i can make a choice and move on, right now its more complicated and so i offer perspective other then top dog blasters and calculator copy pasters. If they dont want to hear from a player like this they can simply ignore my write ups :slight_smile:

I am done here,for now, goodnight all.

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No, the point is you are just spewing incoherent gibberish. If you fail at simply making a complete thought then you probably cant form any opinion worth considering.