So, related to tIV and the new battle pass,

Im just curious what do you all think, i welcome any ideeas and opinions, like what would you change to make the situation/game better in this aspect, there has been mostly negative reviews on the new battle pass, and in big part because of the platinum, ok whatever, i feel like before was better but thats not the point of this, they also said in past interviews, that they would like tIV to be aspirational, like only a part of the playerbase to get there, ok... but in order for something to be aspirational.. there needs to be a goal right ? 

So my ideea was something like, place all the important stuff of season journey (titles, rewards and pets) to like, t2-t3 difficulty (to be more accesible for the casual players) and for t4, make it harder a bit or however u like, and place just 1000 platinum in the last season jurney thing. 
 1. This would encourage players to push for more, keep people engaged with the new season for more time maybe, to achieve this last page of season journey, to get platinum for cosmetics / next bp
 2. It would make t4 somewhat aspirational, ( i think cosmetics achieved through hard work are always good, but there would need to be smth else added in the future too, to make that sentence true)
 3. + would make things more fun, i think im not the only one that enjoys transmog-hunting / pieces, this way, sure its not the item itself but the currency, which its still okay.
 This way, there would be 1000 (platinum from SJ) + the free 200 (BP), and those 200 from the battle pass can be kept free, again, for the more casual audience, for them to have something too, if they aren't willing / dont have  the time to push for t4
This would solve the actual b-pass platinum issue, and make t4 more aspirational, at least, all of this was just an ideea that came through my mind, what do you all think/ what ideeas do you have?

PS. i know blizz is greedy, but please try to keep this related to new ideeas and constructive criticism, have a great day!

I don’t kinda like to comment on battle pass because it doesn’t affects me OR you or anyone else. Its an optional purchase with literally fluff items.

The buzz behind this is pathetic to begin with. No one forces or forced you to buy this season battle pass. The info and the rewards was right there. Saying Blizzard being greedy over a 100% cosmetics battle pass is also very pathetic. Is like saying they are greedy to add a $25 mount in WoW. Yea, no. You can 110% skip that mount.

Same here.

You can feedback it so that they add more rewards to the battle pass? Sure, but that’s it.

Feel free to buy it, or not buy it. It will not affect your game play at all.

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I think the premium BP has been important cause otherwise characters look kinda goofy.

Pity they jacked the price by 2 2/3 [ x ] and reduced the offering and not so much as a hey we did this cause _______ insert some kind of explanation _______.

The directions and design goals for games centered on MTX are very different than those that aren’t. You absolutely may not care one way or the other, but to say they don’t affect anything is just being willfully naive.

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How? In terms of game play that is, because that’s all it matters. If you want to wear a bunny suit from the MTX, then that’s on you.

So again, how does it affect you for exemple?

It affects everyone at least in one way - you get the notice every time you earn that battle pass token. It’s endless.

Every company on the planet is greedy. More at 11.

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No, it ends at 99… it shouldn’t display a big message anyways, but it DOES end.

It felt like it was endless lol

Important for who? Bli$$, right?
I don’t give a damn how my chars look, i just want to play…
This is not Barbie & Ken game!!!

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Come on you have to understand what he is saying. They develop a game around selling stuff. This takes away from other game mechanics or those mechanics take the store in consideration. Case and point this “collab”. They could have had a cool crossover with a bunch of new enemies and you grind for the armor skin. Instead they give terrible free stuff to whet appetites so you go into the store to buy the “better” stuff.

I do not care about the cosmetics either, but it hinders the game at a fundamental level. This is just one example the foundation of the game is built around the shop, its why we have mounts in the game, something else to sell on the shop.

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Exactly, i will never understand the whining over something that is only cosmetic in a game. Then they cry about greed, slaps in the face and whatever other meme phrase that means nothing.

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See the replies showing you how it does affect things. But reading them would get in the way of your confirmation bias.

2 replies that are nonsensical, lol? Nice try. This crap doesnt matter at all. Getting butt-hurt over it is even more ridiculous.

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Please tell me how they are nonsensical and do not make sense to you? You assume that all the papers published, insiders talking about the psychology of this stuff, that is all fake? When they have published papers, and TED talks about how it actually does alter the game, you know it is pretty bad.

No I don’t.

Well , every game out there develop to sale and make a profit, but you have to understand that Diablo 4 team is BIG. The art department is different than the game play , features, etc department.

And no , the idea that “but but they could hire more devs instead of art-workers” its pathetic. How many devs can you hire for a lead game design or quest game designer, etc ?

While I agree that some things in the game could and need to be very much improved, this has nothing to do with being “men short” in the gameplay department… in favor of MTX one.

Common sense man! Common sense.

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I am done trying to argue. Some people are just happy being taken advantage of and excuse it. Your arguement actually works in my favor because you have to realize there is an overall budget in order to make money. This dictates who to hire and fire. And it is clear seasonal content is not a priorty. You can always have more, or better people develop a game. But if you have a million dollars to spend, in order to make a record breaking profit since you have to do that every year, then the break down of the budget is going to be more in favor of mechanics that make money. This doesn’t matter if it is contrary to making the game better, since there will always be fools willing to part with their money.

Oh and a final point, you talked about “art workers” but assume they were part of the MTX, that in itself is proof that it affects the game, since those workers could be working on in game assets that are new enemies, or new in game items.

I know you are probably just very passionate about the game, as am I. So I see nothing will change your mind so it is pointless to yell at the void. Have fun and I hope I am wrong, or that you are right.

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The option to buy something or not doesnt affect anyone whatsoever. You dont have to buy this crap, and I dont. A change in price is meaningless. End of story.

How the hell are they taking advantage of me for exemple?!

No! More doesn’t mean better. Wtf? How many guys can work on making a car? 10 ? Ok , well … what happens if you hire 20 ? or 30 ? Will they complete a car faster? No. 10 will still work on it while other 10-20 looks and comment how the other 10 are working.

There is 1 Lead Quest Designer for exemple ( or a few more depending how they manage their quests ) , which coordinate and entire team of say 10 or 20. EVEN if the guy had 50 guys in the team, it wouldn’t matter. Things will not get done faster.

Stop speaking about game development if you have no idea about it.

Which they are also doing that if required, wtf man? Geez, I’m done with you.

I feel like maybe if they wanted to “nerf” the battlepass without totally wrecking its value they should have made it not purchaseable with platinum. So you can get it for 10 bucks but you still get 700 platinum that you can use on other store things (but can’t reinvest into the pass). I think i would have been more ok with that compromise instead of the garbage that they did.