I9-13900KF, died after 2 years. Playing D4 on ultra high setting ray tracing since I have a 4090, system crashed, tried rebooting and constant BSOD. Swapped out RAM and SSD. Still BSOD, swapped out to a new motherboard, still BSOD. Finally swapped to a new CPU and can run windows again. Now I am afraid to play this game again if it kills my hardware. What do I do with my old CPU? I am planning to contact Intel and get it returned, it was 2 years old. Also this game at launch bricked one of my monitor so I donāt know if its related. Idk how a game can destroy hardware soo much. I am just glad it hasnāt bricked my GPU
Runs great on steam deck!
any actual evidence that this incident is related to D4 instead of just hardware manufacturing fault?
because honestly D4 is not even demanding to run
Be honestā¦did you forget to apply the thermopaste?
Honestly Iāve seen some weird CPU issues with the new patch as well. In 1.3 my temps would hardly budge. Since 1.4, Iāve actually seen near throttling temps (91/92c on liquid cooling) and it only happens when D4 is running in any way (even sitting at the char select screen). Iām running a Ryzen 5 3600 and a 7800xt card. Capped frame rates to 60, 120 and 180 on my 240hz monitor and still see some crazy temps at each setting. Utilization logs all show it to be d4. Even my video card screams to 100% util where on 1.3 it sat maybe at 50% even on a busy screen with all settings turned to ultra.
I can even launch the heaven and superpi benchmarks and donāt see issues like this. I was pretty dismissive of it at first, but if more than just me are seeing it. It could be something.
Ohh wow, a new āThis game could damage your hardwareā thread. How original. Pro Tip from 25+ years in IT. It is not the games fault.
More likely the BIOS settings the motherboard was using over cooked it. This has been an thing with 13 and 14 gen i7/i9 CPUs lately.
Not the gameās fault at all.
This is directly a result of the over eager mobo manufacturer and Intel up till the past month ignoring how hard the CPUs have been getting pushed.
I even turned my 12th gen i9 down a tad, reduced its power limit to protect it, along with updating the BIOS.
Might not be the last two gens, but its still pushed harder than spec with default BIOS settings.
This is probably conditional, and only true of certain mobos & manufacturers, right? Or is it actually very widespread?
Medium settings ftw. I like the extra glowy swirls myself, but itās wasted on my split attention (podcasts, tv etc) since the grind itself is mostly not interesting enough.
Curious to know if you got any feedback on the CPU.
This game absolutely runs hotā¦I have a high-end laptopā¦but eventually will be firing up a fixed machine to play.
i9s typically are installed on higher end motherboards, most of which allow the board to over clock/voltage/amperage the chip.
I am using a baseline Z790 MSI board (lower price point but still had OC features) and out of the box when I built the system last May 2023, as soon as I changed the memory speed to 2800/5600 (DDR5) it immediately pushed the CPU clock to where it was hitting almost 6GHz! This was a 12900K!
I reset the clock to auto back then, not knowing what I know now.
My board was defaulting to pushing the CPU as much wattage as it can draw. As much amperage as it could pull, and as much voltage as it wanted.
If I ran something like Cinebench, it would pull over 300W running that chip. Which would exceed the 360AIO I was using and could see it hit 100C if I let it run long enough, but it was bad enough it would bounce near 100 most of the time.
Now, I have updated the BIOS to the latest available for my motherboard, and even that wasnāt actually fixing anything. I instead went in and set a power limit to 180W. Design limit was 150W, maximum Intel spec for my chip is 241W. Certainly not 300W. And not nearly 325W, which is what it was trying to get prior.
Anyway, with a 180W limit, cinebench now wonāt push the CPU past about 85C. Much cooler, sure, its a bit of performance hit on that benchmark, but for everything else I cannot see a difference in performance.
The 13th and 14th gen CPUs are being pushed even harder than mine⦠So⦠Yeah. Any motherboard is suspect at the moment.
Right around the time this came to light, I had built an i7 14th gen for one of my customers. And its a tiny build, with a Fractal Terra case. (nice case btw). Anyway, not a gaming rig, but a multi-tasker machine, so no GPU.
Still, I went in and immediately made sure to power limit that CPU so that there was no way it would over heat. It has a Deep Cool low profile air cooler to fit that case. I ended up capping that one to a power limit of 165W. Works perfectly and still blister fast.
I think by default the motherboard has overclock setting which will overheat your CPU when demand of the processing power increase like D4 game client. You can turn that off and fix the CPU at its baseline speed. CPU die usually due to overheat as there is no way a game can kill any of your hardware as there is security in the Windows OS prevent direct access and manipulation of hardware at unsafe level. What you need is a better cooling system like liquid cooling, or just a bigger CPU chassis which can install 6 chassis fan and a bigger CPU cooler. Also you need to clear the dust of the fans and the dust filter mesh if you have one. Laptop is not advisable to use high end graphic hardware due to poor ventilation.
my cpu temps are color coded on the aio liquid cooler display so at any time i can glance over thru the glass panel to see hey theres a problem. cyber punk ran a lot hotter than this game.
My i9-13900KF sits at around 60-65 °C when playing D4.
GPU (4090) sits at around 44-45 °C when playing D4.
What kind of cooling you have btw?
Sidenote, I donāt run the game with raytracing.
Iāve been playing for about 6 hours, 90fps (capped) 3440x1440, max settings (non RT) and my GPU is 46c, my CPU is 50c.
I was actually just talking to someone about how crazy it is that this game heats up my room less than pretty much any other games Iāve been playing lately aside from Stardew Valley. All while still looking pretty damn good.
unless you have solid proof, this doesnāt mean anything.
that cpu likes to get hot even with a 3x120 radiator.
itās a beast only slowed down by heat (starts throttling when too hot).
i dont think a game ruined it though, itās supposed to throttle and give you other problems, not die
iād look for another culprit tbh. maybe overly aggressive auto overclock settings from mobo or something like that.
seen this not so long ago:
Scumbag ASUS: Overvolting CPUs & Screwing the Customer (youtube.com)
Itās like weāre mining bitcoin for poppa.
Seems to prove the value of older hardware. I run the game on high settings on a 10 year old Strix laptop. Mind you, we all know laptops are hot boxes, so It operates with an elevated cooler stand and an 8 inch fan blowing across the keyboard.
Maybe you should consider better cooling in the future.
I was trying to figure out why Diablo 4 was having issues. I got somewhere that showed me CPU temp. 80 Idle, 100, in D4. Cleaned PC with a dry brush. Sitting at 54c and only went up to 67c with Diablo.
Guess what? Itās still broken after the last two patches
Not sure if someone mentioned it above as I didnāt read every-reply.
Those generation CPUs from Intel have an issue with them⦠not so much the chip itself but a combination with some motherboards and the āsettingsā were tweaked ātoo tightā by default. The motherboards now have a new bios update that resolves the issue.
just google it, itās been a thing over the past few months. Chips burning themselves out.