So again the end game is collect all mobs in a place and Aoe them down bit by bit?

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I am a hardcore diablo fan and crazy excited about the game. Well at least until I saw the Barb video of last night.

I mean it really put me in a very desperate mode to see that endgame is same with Diablo 3 where you grind gear to get to GR X where you get together bunch of mobs, AOE them down in a way which you don’t get to feel that you are really playing a game and see what you are doing but rather watching 8 9 digit numbers popping up. At that point You can just leave the game to your 8 year old brother to spam keys in a certain manner.
I am really sad now (since I have been hyping for any Diablo game all my life) and I am in very desperate need for someone to tell me that I am wrong and that the endgame will be something different and enjoyable and make us feel like actually we are playing a game and overcoming challenges with constant skill check.

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Unfortunately it looks like most challenging part of end game is going to be not fall sleep during playing.
Yes, this is complete joke. Barbar look identical to barb in D3.

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The video does paint a bad image of end game, but its early to tell. This is why i hate streamers tbh not streamers per say but streaming.

Ruins any mystery to be discovered with new games. This is why gaming is going down hill, 10-20 years ago we had to discover games by playing them not watching them first.

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So even worse… because with time its going to be only easier and easier.

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yeaaaaahhhh looks bad but we need to play and see.

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It all depends. The way you handle and kill mobs will depend on your class and build.

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Did you want the game to be where you just teleport past everything and only kill 2 or 3 bosses and the start again?

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Don’t base your opinion of the game on one build of one class and assume that is the intended norm. Its a brand new game, tuning will happen.

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Did you watch the Necro group play? It was the same thing.

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No but i hate the grouping or tagging them along with you aspect

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How can’t you base your opinion on one build if whether it’s OP or not have nothing to do with core game mechanics which are same garbage as before?

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Its launching,keyword is launching, with a fair bit of content endgame.
Endgame considered to be post-campaign:
Nightmare dungeons
Tree of Whispers
Helltides
PVP zone
World bosses
…and collecting any alters & renown you didnt whilst you sped through the campaign.

Name an ARPG that launched with as much? Hint: Its not POE, its not Last Epoch (which hasn’t launched yet).

Hopefully seasons give more and leave more in the game. Hopefully they give us a visceral endgame similar to a POE atlas or Last Epoch Monolith where wwe have a progression through some system to pinnacle bosses… not just “who can do the highest nightmare dungeon the fastest + leaderboards”.

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Is there a reason people want this?

I always thought All ARPGS were meant to be AoE blobs.

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No but cmon I did not say that I want D2. In my opinion that is worse than D3. And I explained what I wanted.

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They are.

You kill swathes of monsters to get a high quantity of loot. It’s how these games work and I really don’t get why people are surprised by this.

It wasn’t going to be like the beta for the whole game where every battle is hard won, in a game with randomized loot.

I get wanting a challenge but it was always going to be a numbers game.

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I mean the general vibe I had got from the community was that people wanted something different, more engaging and in a way more fun. Of course I might be wrong and maybe most of the people are happy about it.
It was just very disappointing for me because I was expecting something different something that is taking more risks and trying to present a new thing.

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That is what we wanted, and this is what we got.

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When i think ARPG i just remember when i leveled hero’s in Marvel heroes back in 2015 - 2016 and it was always AoE blob.

I don’t remember much from Diablo 3 and i doubt i played an ARPG before then.

But when i think ARPG i definitely don’t think Dark souls or even MMORPG difficulty

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Yeah maybe they could have done it by making us engage in smaller packs or something. Having all the mobs in the dungeon on top of me to the point that I cannot distinguish a single thing from one another really saddens me because as I said I was way to much hyped for D4 for years.

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But i was in the delusion that a mInion build would ever work…

So yeah, maybe i wanted smaller packs as well