It’s so easy to criticize content we haven’t even seen yet. I will wait for S4 to decide.
I am comming back after not playing since season 2. So heres 1 guy~!
Season 4 will certainly cause a population bump, but I doubt it will last. The game is just not fun at its core, and that’s not going to change with what they’re implementing. It’s a start sure, but nowhere near enough to pull players back. Especially with some great games out now and on the horizon.
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D3 vanilla was good, but not omg. Bliz put the lipstick on the pigsticker all the way up to when people got to the wall at act 2 hell. Then they started tearing the game apart. They realized there was only one stat on gear. There was no weapon/elemental wheels. Which broke the ah. Class balance was off. Diablo was the wrong gender. That skill trees were more immersive than just choosing skills.
I personally liked the speed increase. I like the added experience for stringing kills together. I like the faster waypoint system. I loved the mercs and being able to equip them, and the fact they added some story/humor that did not hinder playing the game. I did like the presentation of the main story for the most part. I wish it would have come out to an open world for a bit, but it flowed much better than the d4 questing. You felt like you were playing the story, all except the fetch quests and rescuing people.
I did not like bounties. Quests are boring. I did not like 4 players. I did not like the removal of the lobbies. I did not like the areas leveling to my character. I did not like the removal of the prefix/suffix system on items. I did not like that I could not find cross class/ cross level items. I did not like that the items were class specific.
Everything I did not like about d3, they put in d4. Everything that I liked is gone.
What they did not do in d4 is add any new mechanic that blew my mind. Not one single thing in d4 had me excited.
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It’s really easy because I haven’t played this trash game since season 1. Short of a rebuild, this game is dead to me.
This guy gets it.
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Yea that is basically how I feel as well. What they doing is a good step but this is stuff that should have been dealt with before season 1 even started.
Hello, I’m one of those who has quit and know several others. Do you even talk to us? Do you know why we quit? Its not about getting value out of the game we spent money on. I can tell you right now that your logic is flawed.
Sure, but if we’re being honest, the only Diablo game that was ever amazing (for its time) on release was Diablo I. Diablo II took another year for the expansion that we all pretend existed at launch, and a year of dev time back then was like the equivalent of ~3 today. Diablo III was a total fustercluck until RoS nearly 2 years later and still took a few years trying to iron things out past that. Diablo IV might actually be pretty good within a year and a half from release if the expansion is good, which I find pretty impressive given their previous history. I’d love it if they didn’t feel the need to tank their progress with each game since D3, but I’m glad that they seem to be figuring out how to recover from their missteps a little more quickly if nothing else. 
Agree. I left at the end of S1. A new season won’t be bringing me back. The base game needs a total overhaul. Totally agree. Fix the game first, then implement seasons. I keep trying to return, love the Diablo series, but the dev. team seems unable to steer the ship away from icebergs.
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Sure champ, feel free to open a support ticket with Bluzzard to let them know your reasons.
Like you, I know lots of people that left, so no I don’t need to talk to you, to state anything.
The new itemization will def bring some players back.
Greater Rifts (Pit) will do the same I’m sure.
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This will definitely bring some people back, just so they can try it out.
Whether they will stay is another matter. Whether it is important they stay is too. There is an unhealthy obsession among some people about being married to a game.
Personally, I see the new changes as a fairly mixed bag. Some good, some bad. And not anything that will fundamentally change the game.
The biggest positive change tbh, is something they barely talked about at the fire chat; changing more affixes to work across classes (and in some cases also just across more builds within a class, like the changes to what counts as core skills).
Now that is a real step toward better A-RPG.
Worst part isn’t even related to the itemization, but rather appears to be the return of dungeons with a timer and no freaking loot drops (aka. GRifts).
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Yeah no matter how many changes they make, if the game still lacks soul or “fun” factor, however you want to phrase it, I can’t imagine, I would stay let alone the people that bailed before.
This is totally D4’s 4th last attempt to fix the game. The last last last last attempt we will accept to fix D4 I swear.
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And we are going to fix it by adjusting power, again… But, this time it will work, because… We have nothing else. But, we are going to let you zoom like you want… In certain areas… As long as you computer don’t melt… Again.
S4 is a net positive for the game, but it won’t bring players back
I didn’t play at all in S3, only played a bit of S1. Season 2 had content that was at least fun for a few weeks.
These changes are enough to at least to get me to log in and try it again.
So ya, it is bringing me back to at least try it.
If it sucks, back to Last Epoch.
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Oh give me a break, if you find a streamer that likes the same games you do and they have early access, it gives you a decent feel of what to watch for.
Streamers are no different than TV and Movie critics. I don’t remember people complaining about Siskel and Ebert seeing movies early and then giving their opinions.
Streamers are no different than any reviewer, other than they are more honest than paid publications from “journalists” like Kotaku.
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Yep, lots of people need to be told what to think. Thats why they parrot what streamers say.
The biggest mistake a company can make is revamp the entire game to appeal to players who have left. Ask SOE how that worked out with SWG. No game appeals to everyone. The best move is to work to improve the game for those who actually enjoy it. Not revamp the game to chase after an audience who will never come back. All you accomplish is angering the people who did enjoy the game and now you have nothing. The hardcore ARPG crowd will be in POE2 no matter what. That game will be specifically designed for the players who love deep complex systems and challenging gameplay. They will not be coming back to D4 and I’m pretty sure Blizzard knows this, hence the campfire chat we just watched. It should be obvious to everyone at this point that D4 is chasing an entirely different audience from GGG.
PS: For those not aware of the reference, SWG( Star Wars Galaxies) was a sandbox MMO that tried to revamp itself into a WOW clone. It didn’t work and the game shutdown four years later. It’s too bad because it had the best crafting and city system I have ever seen in a game. Some of the most fun I have ever had in a video game was taking my bounty hunter and hunting down Jedi players. But SOE wanted to chase the WOW money and like everyone else, failed miserably.
I was playing galaxies at the time. The max edoxus was a result of the NGE. I had just finished grinding every profession and got my jedi.
Sorry, didn’t happen like that. You’re wrong.