This is a clear and easy way to give a little power back to barb pls consider this change.
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Indeed, for starters.
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It’s not enough. We need to do millions times more damage than we are currently doing.
All multipliers need an extra zero.
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The best we can hope for is small incremental buffs in the midseason patch.
I heard that Rod Fergusson stated on twitter/x that buffing all other classes to SB level is not going to happen (which makes sense) and that the other classes are roughly in the spot that they want them to be (which is sad).
My biggest concern now, is that if they fix the Mighty Drop snapshot bug, then Barb is not going to be as “strong” as it currently appears to be, meaning that we are in for the same anemic Barb in S7.
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Even if mighty throw keep it’s power, as far as I can see there’s no other builds in the same tier or one tier below. Other barbarian builds directly falls to C tier (assuming mighty throw is A tier).
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Yep
I am playing WW Dust Devil Quakes this season, I have 8 uniques equipped, 3 of which are ubers, and the best the build can do is probably T80-T90-ish.
8 uniques…and that’s about as far as it can go with an okayish clear time…8 uniques…and paragon lvl 280…
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Yup knowing blizzard we will get a 5% buff to ww direct damage and a 8% attack speed buff for double swing. Some stupid and useless buff like that. In my 15-20 years of gaming this is probably the worse balance team I’ve experienced. Season 4 barb felt like it was in a really good place, yes bleed was overpowered but everything else was reasonable. Now we have one bugged build and everything else sucks and even our best builds need 3-5 mythics to really shine. It’s insane.
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Really shine? Thats an understatment at best With best gear ever we cannot do 90+ except MT. Me with 4200str., 31 skill rank bash, 85 gems, cant clear 87 as bash barb.
I cleared 87 with Frenzy before switching to MT.
I was able to put together a non snapshot build that hits for 8-11B on the high end. Masterworks and gear is a bit wonky, and the playstyle sucks compared to Frenzy, but the bossing and clear is better.
Sad.
Throw is S tier, but everything else Barb has is B tier or lower.
Barb is getting carried hard by Mighty Throw, no doubt. And remember it got a pretty big buff last minute, and it’s also benefiting quite a bit from a snapshot bug.
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What would be also fun is if Dust Devils and Quakes were an optional way to build and not required for certain builds. Sure would be cool if Whirlwind or Leap itself could be the Primary Damage.
Hello. I am Deathblow Barb. I have cleared 90. So far that is my cap, but I still have room to improve
a big problem is the dev team seem to look at classes having ONE semi decent build and then going “yup, can’t buff that class at all because it has a single good build.”
I know. Like, with things like stickerthought and barbed carapace you’d think they would have been putting thought into making an alternative non-twister WW, but there’s just not enough there to make a thorns ww build viable.
Dangit, thinking about things, they really need to do a pass on alot of WW stuff; its hilarious how weak aspect of grasping whirlwind is in comparison as a barbarian skill specific aspect when they added in wildbolt aspect for every class as a non-specific that also buffs damage.
Sb is all uncap…on top of many busted bugs multiplying.
The other 4 are capped para nodes and key passives etc.
Question, How to not snapshot and still do billions?
Are u using grandpa?
I’m using Grandpa and not using Eqs + Rumble. 50k+ life OP build. If I could get Lucion’s to work, it would be perma orange numbers, but there’s a few kinks to work out. I’m at 100% crit and I overpower almost every time.
Still don’t like the build. Working on something different that will hopefully work, but not too enthused.
Correct i too feel mighty throw isnt smooth due to bash throw bash throw at the beginning and to move from pack to pack of mobs.
You are using doombringer i suppose as xuou got over 50 hp
Yeah, I have Doombringer. I’m not using Bash at all.
A lot of Barbarian can be fixed through their Skill Tree. The Enhanced versions of most Skills are lackluster and the upgrades are pure garbage.
Enhanced Whirlwind for example should also Pull Enemies to you periodically as you channel WW.
Upheaval’s 2 Upgrades are just bad. The Stun should be part of Upheaval and not the Enhanced version. Sundered Ground should be the Enhanced version with Sundered Ground being better support for Upheaval damage.
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We need a lot more pull, vulnerable, multipliers, synergy, and thorns on our tree.
SB was well made. Implement that to all other classes.
Barbs have always been stifled by our garbage tree, glyphs, paragon, and aspects.