Well. for efficient gameplay we gonna need few builds. For example :
1 build for pushing high great rift ( high level-nightmare dungeons)
1 build for daily’s and fast running low medium level dungeons.
1 build for pvp
aaand we could even add support builds for people who play in party.
With respec costs of millions and millions of gold, you won’t be able to respec 2-3 times per day, and in, my opinion, it sound awful. It’s either you are doing something with bad build for it (for example - running dailies with high dps but slow clear) either you are forced to level, few characters of the same class and move gear between them, and that sounds awful for me. Instead of being focused and playing only one character we are forced into some kind of korean MMO.
P.S. Please dont tell me that nobody forces me to do anything.
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One of my favorite things about D2 was after rolling my cold sorc and farming meph all day, I’d have plenty of gear to gear up another character that could do other content, better. Like Hell Countess. Not so good for a cold sorc. So I’d level a javazon.
After the introduction of the cold sunder, cold sorc could just face melt the entire game, so I never had to roll other characters. The ladder was cut in half for me … more than half really.
I love the idea of having motivation to roll other characters that can do different content faster. I really hope they keep this dynamic. And yes, every season.
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Respec cost was a bad idea, and I almost never think things should be free in games.
My mind was changed when D3 let you change whenever you wanted. I realized I had so much more fun trying out new spells any time I felt like it. Granted the spells in D3 are 10x more interesting than the ones in D4, but the point still stands.
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That gonna be extremly boring and insane time sink. Just imagine leveling like 3 barbarians during first 2 weeks every 3 months…
also consider we only have 10 character slots.
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Barb will be easy to level after you have all the imprints unlocked in the codex. Can stack him out with full meta gear off the bat. This is also why I plan to level first with a sorc. I’m hoping there is content barbs will be better at, that offer a reason to want to farm there. Then I can level a barb after the sorc. It’s fun.
And then after that, I can build a niche meme build with something else. The real fun part.
Barb will be top class on launch and people are going to cry with FOMO.
I dont say it’s hard, I say it’s insane time sink. It’s just sink of extra 20-30 hours… And paragon aint account bound anymore? So you gonna need to push few characters close to level 100…
I’d believe that. But there’s no way it will be a better starter than sorc for the sheer reason of mobility. Sorc will be clearing dungeons with spammable teleport, or at least 4-5 second teleport, with evade. The CDR build will just melt everything you fly by. Barb might have boss killing niches tho, so I think he’ll be a good second character.
Y’all are missing it. The reason for the respec costs is because they want you to reroll right? Well, they also want to control what’s OP or not by buffing and nerfing things, keep following. They’re obviously going to sell additional character slots so you can eventually make 1 of every build. They will never remove the respec costs, they want money. This is 1 way to get more money. They said no power, never said conveniences would be omitted from their garbage monetization plans.
Growing with level respec costs encourage STRATEGIC character building, like in D2. The problem with D3 “loadout” system is that it removes ALL strategy from developing your character. I have many fond memories from D2 of RESEARCHING how to build a toon and then following my plan to fruition, until around level 85. With free respecs it’s just a RUSH to max level and then you do whatever you want: the CRAP design of D3.
I find it strange that respecs will cost gold. Gold will be tradable. Clearly, bots will have no problem farming and selling gold so I wonder why they are doing it this way. Unless they intend on selling gold, themselves I guess.
Oh didn’t even think of that severe issue. I can’t wait for them to sit there and do nothing about it lol.
Yeapp you gonna to to srategically build FEW chararcters of the same class EACH league.
Like as i said you plan and level 1 character for pvp
You plan and level 1 character with fast clear.
You gonna need different builds for different purposes.
And it reminds me of something korean like lost ark and undecember. With endless gear movement between 100500 characters of the same class.
Yeah the gold cost for respec is an odd choice that raises some red flags. They should just make it a quest or something. Or even just items bosses drop.
Or just not have it or something, it’s archaic design in 2023.
I mean, for example, I leveled first character to push greater rifts. If I try to do pvp with it - I’m gonna get stomped with my build. And I wont be able to respec daily to enjoy like an hour of two of pvp then switch back to pve pushing build. It would be - either I’m leveling another pvp character, either I’m getting stomped, either I’m skipping pvp.
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Particularly when, we’re suppose to find eventually items that are build defining late game.
So we’re going to find that super cool item… and then make a new one because otherwise we’d have to pay millions of gold to redo the whole tree to take advantage of all the new weird behaviors that the unique gives, or multiple uniques.
There’s also the very real possibility of getting to world 3+ and suddenly not being able to clear something because it happens to have immunity affixes that you can’t cope with without rebuilding your skills.
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Do we have a good sense of what gold generation vs. Respec cost + Other Gold Demands will even be?
My default position is like that of Tosho to a degree. D2 I felt I was playing a character and had greater attachment to the character than in D3 where I felt like I was playing a class because of how easily you could both gear and swap loadouts.
Until is see the cost vs. resource generation it is hard to say where I stand on the limiting factor of D4 on respecability.
worst case you will need gold find gear set and farm a few 10 minute dungeons per respec