Respec cost will lose players

[Shadout-2849]

@Sebrent-1107

That was me saying that you and others had been making the claim that the optimized builds are “all you see”.

Hence why I pointed out the strawman you were attempting to make.

@Sebrent-1107

When someone says “Shadout claims that is all you see” … that doesn’t mean that person is claiming that is all you see. That is that person stating that you’ve made that claim. There is a difference. It’s an even bigger difference when that person has been disagreeing and stating the opposite.

Are you for real. You made a false claim about other peoples stances, so you could pretend to disprove it with our little outlier case. To make it more funny, an outlier that was yourself describing yourself.

@Sebrent-1107

You even followed up and stated that “perhaps it was the most optimal for point he was currently at”.

To point out that you couldnt exactly know if it was an optimal build he was using.

@Sebrent-1107

What’s dishonest about that? Do please elaborate.

How about saying that 1) it was a speed build, for farming, 2) not something he would ever want to use for pushing, 3) saying he spent at least 90% of his time in meta builds, 4) might even have stopped playing because of the lack of optimization.

I mean, it doesn’t really sound like the impressive case of people playing sub-optimal specs for fun as you want to present it to be.

@TatsumakiJim-1766

It was rift key farming. It was a fart and leave the room speed build. In geom would trigger on my way while teleporting along.

There’s no way I was using that for Pushing GRift. Not a chance.

If anything. Playing less than meta is probably why I quit and you see the build as it is. People don’t quit at the host of their game, it’s usually at the lowest

I very likely spent at least 90% of my time in the meta state though.

@Sebrent-1107

Where are you getting those numbers?
Just making them up?

Probably same place as you are.

@Sebrent-1107

My experience is joining clans that were created simply for coordinating groups for one activity or another, using them to find groups instead of random PUGs with afkers

And your experience is that those clans were happy with carrying you through bounties in a slow push build for example?

@Sebrent-1107

and running a pretty large range of builds from current meta build for farming to whatever I had finished playing around with that was “fast enough”.

Ah, so not a slow push build.

But glad to hear you did experience all the respec jumping. Was starting to wonder if there were two completely different versions of D3 out there.