Not one lesson was learned making this game except, people will buy mediocre garbage.
I am fine with respec costs, keep them as they are. We shouldnt be able to change specs 30 times per day.
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You went to the extreme. Not that thereâs anything wrong with (in my opinion) respeccing 30 times a day, Iâd be happy with a day, or a two day timer, where it was cheap and affordable - and then increased significantly from there.
People want freedom to experiment and try other things, other builds, make use of other gear. If the cost to respec is âpainfullyâ expensive (word right out of the devâs mouths) itâs taking that freedom away from the player through arbitrary and unnecessary restrictions.
Not to mention something like a thorns barb may literally be rendered close-to-useless in some group contentâŚ
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Character progression presents options because choosing between those options is fun. If there are no options, then character progression is boring. If you give options without costs, then people can try them all. Once theyâve tried them, they want more options. But you canât just create new options every week. So you set up a system where people can earn new options by completing a season get access to a new build-defining set.
People play and get the set and feel like theyâve earned the cool new build they are playing. They canât swap it for other sets, they canât go back and get it if they didnât earn it that season. People who didnât choose it canât get it. Sure sounds like an artificial and annoying version of gating character builds behind a time-consuming grind.
EDIT: somehow hit the button too soon. Point is, people want to have to invest in their builds. Devs want people to invest in them. Pacing out gameplay options means that the game has more life and you get more out of each option.
They have that freedom. The choice only gets hard (the meaning of the words the dev used) once a player is high level.
To which your solution is that thorns barbs should get a second character for free so they can group as a non-thorns Barb?
Circumventing game balance isnât âfreedomâ itâs just wanting free stuff.
True but thatâs not my reason.
For druids, there arenât a lot of themes Iâm interested in. I only play casters so druid does have limitations due to being a. Hybrid.
The sorc however is a full caster class with a lot of options I am interested in. If I play it, I know for sure I would love to dabble in everything.
And unlike the druid, the sorc feels really strong without any borrowed power. Borrowed power just further adds to their design, which is why I think their design is way better than druid. Druids power is dependent on the combination of everything, Soo I need borrowed power.
So thus, since there are less thematic options for me and their design being very restrictive, I donât. See. Myself tempted as much or at all. Any changes I do make wonât be full blown scale in comparison to my sorc.
Overall is very unfortunate, but w.e. blizz will blizz
lots, actually. Thereâs videos of people having played the end game builds talking about it, and even the latest live dev interview they clarified that they just want to avoid constant(as in multiple times per day) whole build respecâs. They even went so far as to make one point at a time possible, rather than a âresetâ button that just has a flat cost and you have to redo your whole build all at once. This was done in response to closed beta feedback (so the patch notes said)
Utter nonsense. The game is clearly made by passionate people, taking what they know people loved in D2 and trying to change what people didnât love about D3, and find a middle ground they think will make a lot of people happy. I think theyâll largely succeed here, your opinion on the matter notwithstanding
On a final note. Gamers, please. Do what you do when you approach every other video game in existence. Try and get the most out of it, with the restrictions youâre presented with. Donât go and beg for change. If a game is just so unappealing to you because of how itâs made, donât play it.
Youâll be able to try as many builds with your character as you want with very little resistance, in the early parts of the game. Youâll learn and get a feel for all the concepts, and be able to extrapolate how builds will get more powerful ahead of time, knowing what kind of items youâre looking for.
If youâre 50+ hours in to the character and an item drops that you still just cannot fathom how it would affect you without respecing your entire build and trying it out, itâs just so game changing that you literally must build around it right now, then⌠shrug
Sure, that was my problem and the reason why D3 never even felt like an aRPG to me. But the devs went ahead and solved it for me. Thanks devs, great decision.
Also, why not just allow everyone to switch classes freely? Itâs a choice someone made to feel invested into their character, but since those are merely arbitrary restrictions, might as well lift them as well. That way, nobody ever has any reason to level a new character, just like you guys seem to want.
You canât really expect people to invest 150 hours just to play another class. People will leave in droves if you donât let people switch classes, I garantuee it.
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People are too damaged by the WoW mentality of having to change builds for every little single thing. You dont need it in diablo.
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Final Fantasy 14 wants to say hello.
Also, I donât want anything, I just find the people making arguments as to why these restrictions are benefitial to be fools making very foolish arguments.
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Sorry, you donât get to redefine the English language, no matter how much it fits your narrative.
Pain does not mean âhardâ as you state.
Pain precisely means to make suffer or cause distress to : hurt
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Good. Because your posts here contains nothing of substance and everyone can see it.
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Weird response to be honest. Funny how every time I see someone say âfetishizingâ d2 they are the only ones talking about diablo 2. Have a great day.
They recanted that a long time ago big guy. If youre going to whine, keep up with things.
I literally do not care about what the content is I just want to play different builds because itâs fun. The only alteration I would make outside of because fun is if Iâm in a group I wouldnât want to play a build that makes it unfun for other group members or myself.
Lol this is the first expac with fully free reapecing on the fly and no real barrier between playing specs outside of general gear. Shockingly there is an incredibly low amount of player bleed compared to basically the last 4
No you want to invest in your build and you can do that quite freely there is zero reason for me to need to be annoyed because of your need for a shock collar. This is like the anti war mode people who canât stand that people can completely opt out.
They didnât - this was theyâre latest clarification - not the initial one lol. This was after the initial clarification. You donât pay attention, and calling people âbig guyâ isnât conducive to anything other than making you seem odd. PS - Iâm not whining - Iâm simply sharing my thoughts in a manner conducive to furthering the discussion.
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If you guys canât have fun in a game with respec costs, why are you not refunding the game?, seems silly to me buy an expensive game that you will not enjoy. Come back in a few years and maybe they changed their stance on respec costs. 
Who said we canât have fun in a game with respec costs?
This is the issue arguing with people on the internet - people just make up stuff. Just because a certain aspect may lessen the fun - doesnât mean we donât still fully intend to have fun. The argument is for more fun.