Remove ring of mandeln and buff minion dmg

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yeah i know many would hate it, but i hate it to have 1 item to make minion work. they should remove this ring and buff minion astead so that u have “the ring of mandeln passive dmg” when u have skilled all there paragon notes.

if u dont use this ring and SKILL all for minion even the paragon board they do NOTHING!
U do the dmg with corpse explosion and such stuff but MINIONS without anything hits for maybe 8-10k? lel…

u dont even skill this +%dmg minions because IT doesnt work with the ring of mandeln ring (for everybody who doesnt know) u only have to skill minions life stuff so that they dont die and thats it… is that a minions build? i would say NO.

if u use all affixes/paragon notes minions should be strong as u would use ring of mandeln without this ring.

that every +%minions dmg on paragon doesnt work with mandeln AND they do at least 8-10k on hit thats a waste of points.

and important, i like the concept of the priest and buffing/healing minions, yeah its cool, but only in theory in real life the minions are designed so that they can’t take much punishment and you are forced to press that button sometimes… the concept and thought behind it is cool but when playing it just feels like crap.

I think back to diablo 3 and you could use the button to tell the minions what to attack… 10000000x better than the buff/heal crap we currently have.
and because of the last patch because many think that the cursed enemies attack the cursed target…
you have misunderstood blizzard, they do not want YOU to be able to say who your minions attack…

it was just to make your minions a little more aggressive and when you put a curse on an enemy attack that enemy instead of waiting for the enemies to attack YOU or the minions… this has nothing to do with more control over the minions. (just for clarification)

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My minions work without the Ring of Mendeln. I reached Torment without it. Have Torment Helltide on farm repeatedly killing Helltide Assassins without it.

The Ring of Mendeln is the extension of what I’ve been doing since I started playing a Summoner. What it did is just to sometimes shorten clearing of mobs/elites. Those mobs/elites would die regardless.

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They don’t, you can farm whatever you want with a bone necro by just pressing click, and you are hitting everything for a million by just clicking, it’s a 1 button build if you want.

You are pushing NM and want to crit for 20 million?, then use tendrils and CE to trigger flesh eater or blighted bonestorm to trigger blighted aspect.

Minions aren’t meta, minions at endgame are around 100K DPS unless you are using Mendeln, which doesn’t require your minions to do damage at all, so you can just remove every damage node from your build.

On a Mendeln build you want minion attack speed so they make more corpses, and minion damage reduction, that’s all.

Mendeln is the supersoldier serum, and it works based on your damage, not your minion damage. They are doing nothing hitting for 2-8K and then Mendeln kicks and erases everything so to optimize your build for Mendeln, you remove any + damage on your minions because it’s just worthless.

A Mendeln proc is equivalent to more than 60 standard minion attacks and has AoE, so that would be 6000%x your standard minion damage on in game stats, can you get close without Mendln? Not unless you hack the servers I’m afraid.

Minions need to get 100% your crit chance, crit damage and vuln damage and 40-50% of your stats to start being competitive. And they need to have lucky hit chance, they need at least 5-10% lucky hit chance.

PS: I have Mendeln (with the worst damage roll :laughing:), and yes, I can remove it from my build, and go full minion again if I want to do NM dungeons in 13-15 minutes instead of 7. :sweat_smile:

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just reached T4 and doing helltide? Ok, you have no idea what you are talking about… Try a T60 NM, or even 50, you will see how flawed minion build is.

Note: Mendeln build is not minion build.

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these posts are so funny, so cute.

i can do what you do ,30x faster

get boned

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“I cAn tRaVeL aCcRosS CoUntRy On My SkAtEbOaRd. It JuSt TaKeS lOnGeR ThAn FlYiNg. I WoUlD StIlL TrAvEl ReGaRdLeSs.”

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Hell, I’d be happy if they just made it legendary as opposed to unique. That way we could at least have the aspect as it’s absolutely vital to a pure summoner build for later content. I’m lvl 91 and have made it this far sans ring, but it’s been a slog. Just because my build CAN do most later content does not necessarily make it viable. I feel like it’s damn near disrespectful to co-op with this build as the damage is beyond pitiful.

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I actually despise the Ring of Mendeln and minions is the build archetype I want to be strong the most of anything in this game.

When it comes to minion DPS potential, way too much of the power budget is crammed into this unique that first of all not every minion player is even guaranteed to get which is already complete BS given how minion playstyle should be at the forefront of necro setups and not some build that is reliant on a unique, but second of all even if you get the ring, it does absolutely nothing for the necro player unless they opt into the FORCED playstyle of spamming abilities for lucky hit procs, meanwhile they are playing minions entirely to avoid spamming because minions are meant to be the source of output for the build as a passive damage dealing source.

Mendeln completely undermines actual passive minion clearing setups, while also resulting in a situation where the devs can’t even find power budget to give to the minions themselves, because anyone out there who does want to use Mendeln would become OP with it if the minions were good on their own without it. Mendeln is the worst thing that happen to minions basically, I hate the item so much…

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Why look for Ring of Mendeln if you are with Bone Spear? Why waste your time redoing your Paragon Boards/Glyphs if you want to clear dungeons faster?

Why would I need NM60 if I am only looking for cool drops? I just need Torment level and it could drop anything when I solo. I got 2x of Ring of Mendeln not on those ROFL high NM dungeons.

If I want high NM, I would play multiplayer becoz that’s where Summoner shines. Why shine? Most at high level NM are stupid Glass Cannons who dies in one shot. What they all need is Tank and Summoner Tanks are few becoz most of the Summoners are playing it wrong. They are playing as Glass Cannons too. ROFL.

Go play your Glass Cannon Builds. Dont cry when you get one shot killed. I am tanking as a Summoner. They said I cant do high level Tier Dungeons. I am thriving at high level dungeons.

I redid Glyphs so I am quite behind. And I play Casual. My highest so far is NM 44… Havent died yet becoz I havent played much on high Tiers but I did 5x last night… busy rez’ing those Glass Cannons or erase mobs with elites with my Ring of Mendeln. Most of my games are on lower NM Tiers. I am expecting Butcher to get there on me and I am ready to spank him. Also at lower Tiers, I dont care with any of those affixes, they would be destroyed no matter what and I am having fun destroying them.