Remove all trading including gold = no bots or rmt
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you forgot ways to prevent counter arguments. Like anyone knows that, and such. Bad Troll 
Im all on board the no trade to prevent most rmt idea, but if you think that will eliminate bots too, youre delusional.
Remove trading might not eliminate bots completely, but our chat should be better other than powerleveling bots
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To be fair public chats going to be awful no matter what. First thing I will be doing on release is shutting off/leaving all of the channels I can other than clan. It was even absolute garbage in the end game closed beta. Full release, nty.
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I doubt they will remove trade completely. They earn a lot by tradebots buying the game and D2JSP degens buying the game.
I only wish they would gimp the trading a bit more. You shouldn’t be able to just buy Ancestral grade yellow items with 4 affixes (if that’s what ends up being max). These items will be sought after in the beginning since they are are perfect for use with aspects you have farmed. Luckily, rolls on yellow/ rare items will never have the high potential roll as legendary and Uniques. So its not true endgame, but close enough.
Removing trade or making it a completely anonymous transaction where the seller and buyer can’t form any connection in real life to complete a psuedo rmt or real rmt transaction would eliminate all the gold and item farming ones. I feel these are a much higher priority than the single use leveling and material farming ones such as in D3. I also think that even without D4 having an esport element that bans for psuedo or real RMT or botting should be hardware bans, no easy back in with just buying a new key.
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No matter if it is items, currencies or anything else, nothing in the game should be tradeable.
Not to eliminate bots, but to preserve the basic loot hunt experience for players.
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Trading should only happen in a dungeon with members that were in the dungeon when the item dropped. No coin trading allowed.
They would have to give a grace period of about 30 minutes or so for people to check their cache to see if something not picked up is in holding.
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Or they could have some sort of bot preventions such as some GMs or something. Surely a record profits company could afford to hire some people to do that.
What is a one-and-done solution to bots and RMT? No trade. Having ‘teams’ of people monitoring games and chat will be an ongoing expense for the life of D4.
It’s easy to see why one solution is more attractive and easier to implement.
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And also it was proven again and again that Blizz is useless stopping bots in other games like WoW.
Let’s talk about rmt bots, most players will hate this for sure, but times have changed, and the good old days can’t go back!
In fact, rmt bots are very important to most officials, and it is really impossible to resist the temptation of rmt bots. The relationship between the official and rmt bots is that fish help each other, and water helps fish. It has long been a tacit understanding and can be regarded as an undisclosed secret!
In some countries, there are worse-quality domestic companies. In fact, rmt bots are also invested by the company’s own directors to invest in third-party operations, so as to avoid at least a break point after an unfortunate accident. This is the world of businessmen, not N years ago It’s just for the players to make a pure game of Blizzard!
The main reasons are:
This is a fee-based software. The bottom line is that as long as you don’t attack the server, the more rmt bots, the higher the official revenue. This is a performance reward. If rmt bots players are blocked, they need to buy software again. As long as the popularity and traffic If the password can be maintained at the peak, all three parties win!
In the mmo+arpg game, in order to resist rmt bots and achieve complete disappearance, it unfortunately sacrifices a design that is friendly or fun to players!
In fact, it is a bit unrealistic to do so, the reality is so skinny!
There is no trading function between non-team players, and using the season mode(resetting characters) to reset the economy, just like D3, will soon face a large number of player losses, and the glory will no longer be there!
The official paid version of the pass will not be able to make money from a large number of potential players who are keen on the trading fun between non-team players!
Even if the transactions between non-team players are prohibited, rmt bots will still have the business of brushing equipment and selling accounts on behalf of them!
well i kinda agree but what if a item drops for me while im playing with a friend and its a perfect item for his build but useless for mine… then i feel like i should be able to drop it for him…
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If they copy the current trade system from diablo 3 that is not a problem. If he’s in your party you can trade him the item for 2 hours.
Lol you are going to stop trading because of bots that will exist regardless.
Assuming you dont drive or get in a car because of potential for car accidents. Car insurance is just an ongoing cost am i right fellas?
I think WoW does it the right way.
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Basic BoE items can be freely traded.
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BoP items dropped from monsters and bosses can be traded with anyone who was in your group/party when it originally dropped. Maybe allow trades with a anyone who is in your clan when the item drops too, to promote clans helping gear each other gear up.
But for Diablo, I would make all items that you get and equip become Account-Bound, so you can freely hand them off to your Alts to use. Locking items to a specific character is annoying as hell. I like how in D2 and D3 you can give items you no longer use to Alts. They should continue that trend in D4.
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Being able to know regardless of what you find, it’s useful because it can eventually get you the gear piece you want in a game that is all RNG is actually kind of nice. Trading is a massive part of the game in that kind of regard.
If you were both present at the kill, definitely. Imo the items dropped belongs to everyone who participated in the kill. The personal loot is just an arbritary loot rule added on top.
I think D4 should just add the same toggable loot rules as in PoE; Private loot, Time allocated loot, and Free for all loot.
If a group of friends want to just share everything, FFA would make sense as the loot option for example.
or streamer’s fans give all the free items/golds to streamer, its a huge game breaking lol, its crazy that no one can see that lol