Just did an Infernal 8, well geared Bash/Hoa build, 40 mins to kill them, Really? Don’t you guys know how to a lot DPS? or is it just your favorite for the season, sorc or rogue is the flavor for this season? No friggin way I would ever buy you Xpax with the current so called devs you have going now, get some people that know how to program a game so all characters are close in dps to make the game not so one sided. Now we will see the trolls jump all over this post:)
40 minutes? Wow. My immortal thorn build took 30 minutes only. And I just AFK.
I finished the game before there was a need to do T8. Could do T7 but the boss mob was a bit tedious. The PTR is looking great for my build that I always run every season (big improvement in damage) but we’ll see if that goes live as is or not. The whole PTR seems a bit too easy all around.
Also bash bard no HOA, but yeah we don’t pump out much burst at all. Morr like death by a thousand tickles heh. At those point I’ve put too much into the build and im sock of redoing everything so I’ll just make do. I usually play with a couple friends which is great with builds that do more damage so I don’t have to try and solo everything, if I had to then yeah I’d be pretty frustrated with the damage output even more so.
The Barbarian is currently not in a good status. Due to these streamer clowns and the whiners who watch their videos and whine here, the Barbarian was nerfed to the ground.
It’s sad and we can only hope at the moment…
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In PTR we have twister quake and q-tip (weapon thrown) Barb builds that are performing well, but of course these will be nerfed into the ground by the time of the expansion, so it is most likely not going to get much better.
the problem with the quake build is its automated which will be removed, and the weapon throw build will have its number of active weapons capped to improve performance its the same problem that the other spam builds are suffering from it needs less aoe and more punch to lessen the load
This the same thing that happened to D3 barb, nerf after nerf, I eventually ended up quitting.
History is repeating itself…
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Olá. Jogo com o Bárbaro com a build de trombar (Bash) e nessa temporada foi muito difícil superar a construção da temporada anterior que era fácil de construir e bem eficiente.
Nessa temporada construí a build de bash com 5 míticos e me afastei ao máximo da dependência da têmpera de trombar. Com 7 quadros de paragon, glifos multiplicadores (x) de dano, uma tonelada de redução de dano para ficar realmente tank quase imortal, horas sem fim de estudo da build, faço Pit 121 sem morrer e sem sustos e Tier 8 sem morrer mas em uns 24 minutos. Realmente muito demorado se comparado a outras construções. A primeira coisa que eu posso dizer a vocês é que a Luva da build de bash não ativa a marcação (do bônus de 200%). Isso simplesmente não funciona! Testei minuciosamente e não funciona. Então não uso a luva da build mais, uso uma luva ancestral qualquer com afixos aumentados em chance de crítico, velocidade de ataque, dano, força. O aspecto lendário de 20% de ganho em habilidades com 100% do recurso primário. No Pit mudo essa luva para luva da fé que dilui o dano instantâneo acima de 40% ao longo de 2 segundos com redução de 30%. Essa luva acaba com o hit kill em mim, porque tenho muitas reduções de dano, mas usando ela fico ainda mais fraco. Meus ataques são extremamente rápidos, pois esse foi o meio que encontrei de compensar a falta de dano. Bato na casa dos 150 a 250 milhões, com picos até 800 e pouco (mas são esporádicos).
Isso com 85% de chance de críticos, 3.2k de dano crítico, 75% de velocidade de ataque geral + um monte de velocidade de ataque com básicas.
A questão é que na temporada 4 com esse mesmo dano e um pouco menos, matava o chefe do mundo em 5 segundos. Rs agora é osso! Os chefes atormentados eu mato fácil, lilith morre que nem papel, mas no Pit 121 o sangue do boss (apenas ele) demora e eu penei pra descobrir como eliminar o hit kill do boss secundário da sombra. Agora também fiquei praticamente imortal mesmo no pit 121. Só me falta dps pra matar rapidinho o boss. Próxima temporada TODOS foram nerfados rs. Espero que o Bárbaro melhore rs. Tmj
If you can survive for 40 mins than you are either a god of boss mechanics, by the end there are 100 things at once to dodge coming at you at all times, or are way to over invested in defense, if your just tanking everything.
My DS/DD can kill them in ~10-15, depending on which ones I get and if I can survive that long.
While barb is highly gear dependent, gear isn’t everything. As implied above, your build matters a lot too. How much damage are you doing? And not just “I crit for 500m” … But how often do you crit? What’s your “dps”. My DS/DD barb is pushing out ~15 nado crits per sec (this is a guesstimation based on watching at the target dummy) and pumping 10-12m crits. Under the right circumstances, stun/wrath/<35% boss HP, I can do up to 28m. I’m looking at a minimum ~150m DPS just in DS/Devilish nado crits. That doesn’t count the 4x+ ~3m DS crits, or the constantly rolling 8-10m shout nado crits, or the Tyreals crits, any of the non-crit dmg, or any of the conditional dmg.
I don’t say any of this to say I have a great build. I struggle to get through t8’s. I’m just throwing my numbers out there for comparison and to show you that it’s not “barbarians have low dps”. If it takes you 40 mins to kill them than it’s your build that is doing extremely low dps for “well geared” . Even if your seeing big numbers … the speed and consistency of those numbers are important too.
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É mais ou menos quanto tempo levo para terminar um t8. E eu luto para sobreviver na maior parte do tempo. Embora a verdade seja que eu tenho um mago de lança de relâmpago que não é muito mais rápido. É apenas muito mais fácil. O Bárbaro não está em uma situação tão ruim quanto as pessoas dizem. Não causamos danos ruins. Apenas causamos muito menos dano de área e temos que sobreviver em combate corpo a corpo.
Barbarians have low DPS relative to sorcerers and rogues and are extremely gear dependent when it comes to doing end game content. My LS sorcerer makes my barb WW/DD barb look like an old man, and the barb has far better gear with his 4 mythics.
Barbs were gutted, it’s as simple as that. Still a fun class, but let’s not pretend they are in any way competitive.
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