Yep that’s why I won’t touch it.
its the only boss with enough adds, u always fish for it on shatter builds.
I dislike shatter damage, so I didn’t play it. But many sorcs I know are passionate about fighting Frost Shaman…
Shatter is popular in China, and they pursue this “powerful=do high lvl pit” in a Diablo-like game:sweat_smile:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1JZ421T7Lq/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0&vd_source=80617807cc521b6c44e546c4c51af05a
A chinese video site, pay attention.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Hi421h7vT/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0
Here is the one without use skill/potion.
ok i know whats happening, its definately max dodge setup, u can get to like 80-90% dodge, and with the aspect u get hp back on dodge, thats what we see. But hes not doing any dmg so probably super defensive, with doombringer and alot of hp.
Er, they don’t work together because they don’t have to. The point is that their work is independent.
I think I need to update the post a little, though: the class balance people probably have lots of cross-talk with the itemization people, since they are so inter-connected.
I hope your last paragraph was satire.
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I get all the negativity and legit concerns but despite all the nerfs, Sorc isn’t gonna get fat as the druid in S5, we can be at least be happy about that.
Not for me but i could see that happening if that is the last resort
you do realize that shatter bug was fixed on ptr along with the nerf to fire shield, right? this is old news.
Just use Sky Steps aspect. Any time your barrier breaks, automatic flame shield (just can’t use ice armor or frost nova along with it).
I wonder if they noticed a lot of people were just recasting ice armor as soon as it came off CD (on builds with boosted duration and lowered CD) and therefore rarely getting the full buff from the extra amount given by damage. That could be a good reason for the change, but they still need to give some mechanism for endgame players to still scale barrier.
thats just a meme some1 made, he doesnt do dmg as u can see 
i hate to burst ur bubble here, but they only said it, they never did it on the ptr. It was the same as before.
They did that with alot of things btw. like beast in ice change, these never happened.
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Yes, so when the streamer told me it was “Enough”, I was skeptical 
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But he is indeed a very good sorc player, proficient in calculations, and based on the Nerffed PTR data, he has come to his conclusions.
I can only look forward to the follow-up testing of the official version of S5.
That’s what I guessed. However, this is indeed also a sorc’s idea of survival in S5, high HP + high dodge, although compared to S4, some damage-output will lose (can be expected from the new Unique).
Dodge might be a thing for sure, but its really hard to tell until we get further infos on some of the sorc changes coming. Still feels the dmg isnt even close to what it needs to be on most builds. and having high survivability w/o dmg is still not great .
And i believe until s6(expac) sorc on a majority of builds will keep failing in s5. But who knows maybe they surprise us with actual good and well thought changes.
i took the info from mekuna’s stream (top pit clear sorc) where he said shatter got fixed. but who knows, maybe he was being sneaky.
Look, that doesn’t mean anything, because the PTR is full of bugged interactions, which give absurd numbers that will be nerfed to the ground when the final patch notes for season 5 come out, and the current situation of the mage is pathetic, only one build that works It was annihilated with the change to the flame shield, and the fact that any build depends on shatter passive, which is the only one that generates damage, is poorly done and boring.
Perhaps, after all it is not good to be too strong in the PTR 
history teaches us.
Mechanically, Shatter is not a BUG, so I don’t understand what a “FIX” is. But its sure be nerfed by cap Burning Instinct.Believe and look forward to Mekuna’s performance in the S5.
shatter double dip with fire ball was apparently fixed on ptr or so said kuna. this is the only reason why sorcs are able to go past 125 in s4. but as i said maybe he is fibbing so it hopefully makes its way into s5…ha, no, wudijo made another vid complaining about it so if it isn’t nerfed on ptr, it will be thanks to him.