PURE Summoner Minion Necro Build Guide - Diablo IV - YouTube Level 100 WT4, tier 44 nightmare dungeons with full minion build. Works perfectly fine.
Is it slow and mediocre? Yes.
Is the minion AI and our inability to control them absolutely infuriating? Yes.
Is it viable and capable of clearing endgame content? Yes.
People saying “Minions are completely useless in WT4” = proven wrong.
Cool, necromancer is clearing half the tier other classes are with way more effort. Not sure what this is supposed to prove other than Necromancer is still the weakest class by a wide margin and severally undderpowered.
I have a whole list of all the massive negatives for the summoner build and the video even points out those major issues.
People that were saying they were useless were being hyperbolic for a reason, but it’s not necessarily untrue. If you have a ton of gear support and good stats for minions, they can do some damage and survive. But they are extremely difficult to utilize effectively. The best build for them, using Army with massive attack speed from the legendary, is so hard to get to work right for the same amount of damage other classes do casually on a 60 second CD.
tier 44 isn’t good for a level 100. Barbs, Sorcs, and Druids are clearing 44s at level 75… after nerfs.
You’re right, comparatively to other classes and builds, it’s not good. I am just attacking the “hyperbolic” statements trying to make it seem like, if you go down this path, no matter what, you will not succeed.
So you’re arguing over hyperbolic statements which purpose is to point out the incredible weakness and unfun gameplay of the class for no reason? So you are pointlessly arguing for the sake of arguing? What a waste of forum time.
The guy literally said its so so, as it takes him 15 to 20 seconds to clear 1 pack. Other classes do it in 3-5. Or if youre barb you just press 1 button and the room dies.
OP is just another moron.
Its CLEARLY not working and you posted the proof.
Yall have a problem with people asking to buff a class? Like theyre buffs. It does nothing negatively for the class why is it such a friggan issue for you?
Barring the fact that 2 PARAGON BOARDS ARE NOT EVEN WORKING.
THATS the part thats mindboggling. Its like anyone asking for fixes and buffs that will postively impact the class is a HINDERANCE. Are yall insane???
Yea, but that’s like saying ‘See here’s proof you can swim across the English channel!’ and post up a video of the handful that are doing it… when only a handful of people can actually do it.
For the remaining 99.etc…%, hyperbole is more or less fact.
WT4 is not endgame content. Tier 44 nightmare dungeons is also not endgame content.
Not to mention its the only class mechanics that require you to invest very heavily to make it mediocre and useless and if you decide to sacrifice it, they are at most on par with if not worst than druid spirit boon
So do you think he used his “PURE summoner” build to get to WT4 Tier 44?
Kind of hilarious that your evidence of viability is a showcase of how bad it is.
In my post about viable endgame builds, I specifically said 44 was the soft cap for Minions. It’s too slow and too many things completely screw them over (Suppression, need to single target, one shot mobs). There are too many downsides to make it enjoyable to play.
You CAN do it. Sure… you CAN. But that isn’t the point, just because I can clear a dungeon and take an hour doing it, doesn’t mean it is a playable spec. I was doing 44s on a bone lance build at 72, the fact that a 100 slow clears it with a minion build just shows how bad it really is.
I remember your post. My stupid self actually tried to do a 50 key. No thank you sir
There’s no point OP. The internet talking heads have created a narrative and the sheep will never regurgitate differently until the internet talking heads change the narrative for them.
Summoner Necro bad!
WW barbarian good!
You still havnt posted a video im waiting
The crappy part is, I tried my hardest to prove the talking heads wrong. I was on that side of the fence for the whole first week. I got to T4 early, got the uniques, ran the numbers, and they don’t add up. Simple as that.
The narrative exists because, it’s not a narrative, its fact.
Minions need some bug fixes, some QOL, and some number changes. The class as a whole needs Scythes to have a better static effect, Intelligence needs to scale a defensive properly (look at the most recent breakdown for resistance modifiers, it’s beyond broken). Class has some deep issues, and minions not being great are just a reality of that.
That was my thought as well. Its like great you just showed how pathetic minnions builds are. Its like great the minnion build takes 10x longer to clear and has to be 20 to 25 levels higher to do the same content other classes breezes through.
this straight up feels like a rushed game
His highest damage output is bone spears with the unique for echo’s. This is proof that minions need other damaging ability support to function while requiring more points than any other skill investment.
“ran the numbers”
I’m sure you had your dry-erase board out furiously solving mathematical equations at all hours of the night.
You all are ridiculously hilarious.