Please do something about tempering bricking items

Didn’t know how much I’d hate this before I experienced. Already bricked multiple ancestral legendary which had the stats I needed due to tempering.

Either allow roll back, or add more attempts to tempering.

Bricking an item you need isn’t fun, and it does not feel rewarding at all.

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I agree with this, would like to see the attempts doubled and a way to unbrick the item if you happen to still get unlucky.

However I think unbricking the item should come with a significant cost. Something you don’t just do automatically for every single item you brick but rather something that is a meaningful decision to do or not.

Not sure how they do that, what currency they use for it, maybe a massive gold cost and a fist full of rare mats or something.

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I love the new system. Its good to have some dampening. It feels bad when rolling the wrong stuff, but i ran with a “bricked” 2H Mace for around 20 houres before i found a new one. Bricked items can still be used, its just missing a stat you want.

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Yeah the bricking has to be done away with. But it can’t be trivial either.

Bricking items you can just get again after another 5 hours of play is fine. But bricking super rare godly items is not fine. There should be some process to at least be able to retemper something. Even if it costs a lot of time and effort.

RNG bricking GG items permanently is not acceptable. No ARPG does this.

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Yes agree with this, we dont need to reroll tempering 100 times per item

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Agreed. Masterworking should represent the only serious grind for gear.

925’s with 75% of the proper affixes used to matter…now I assume one of the temperings will fail.

It’s also a major time sink that impedes pushing towards the actual endgame activities.

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I don’t mind tempering per se, and while bricking an item does suck, you know more items will drop that you can have a chance at.

What I absolutely hate is that re-tempering can roll the exact same useless stat multiple times in a row. I think it should be forced to pick something different if you are re-rolling.

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Agreed.

I dread interacting with the system due to multiple ‘bricked’ items. I thought it was 5 rerolls per slot based on my experience with sacreds… was surprised when I rolled second affix and couldn’t reroll the new one at all.

5 rerolls between two affixes and no way to reset feels bad. anything would be an improvement, but ideally allow resets.

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Definitely keep the limit. So-called “bricking” is an important part of this system.
Otherwise, move the affix rolls back to when the item drops. Those got no retries either.

That said, allowing us to go back to the previous roll would be fine.

That would really suck for those trying to get a higher roll of the same one.

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I did think of that, but what’s worse? Rolling a completely useless stat 3+ times in a row or living with a non perfect useful stat? I know which I’d choose.

I have bricked so many but I just move onto the next one. :hamster: :popcorn: I like the way it is and the tears it brings to these forums.

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you’d still get one guaranteed shot at a reroll of the given affix assuming you have all 5 rerolls to start. You’d still get your bricking… and a guaranteed shot at a better roll.

I’m really neutral on this suggestion, but it’s not as bad as you make it seem for people trying their luck on a better roll of the same affix… which is something I will never do with the system as-is.

Exactly! :smiley: The joy when you find a 3 GA (i got my first yesterday) and the temperings hit what you want. Man thats some nice dopamin hits.

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with so few attempts, they should let you be able to go back and pick any of the previous affixes you already tempered.

can make it painful like costing gold or something, but at least no more bricks.

They need to fix the stupid repeating affix. Getting the same stupid affix at least 3 times in a row needs to die in a fire.

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It’s more than generous. People just want no chance of failing and wont stop complaining until thats what it is.

Current system is more than fine and generous. There needs to be systems that pushes back on you a little bit instead of just a straight line to what you want with no detours.

Try crafting a 6x T1 item in PoE and you will realize how forgiving and easy it is getting top gear in D4. It does not need to be any easier.

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You say that but just wait untill you find a 3 greater affix bis item that is literally a once in a lifetime find and then you brick it. Just go find a new one then. :frowning:

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I feel ya. It wasn’t 3GA but on my Barb yesterday I had a really nice ammy that I rolled Damage to Distant Enemies on 4 times in a row. That hurt. My comment was just trying to be realistic. With how to improve the system.

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I think they should have the world bosses drop a mat that lets you re-temper 1 time.

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