You gotta keep in mind that people were adamant about Rogue being dead and feeling terrible to play before the nerf was actually even applied.
If people want to quit because of a bug that’ll be fixed in due time or because our class got predictably nerfed, let them.
Most of them are meta chasers anyway the true class enjoyers will play regardless. I just find it funny people complain about the inevitable.
Nothing wrong with meta chasing, even. It’s just ridiculous to assume that the day 1 meta will be set in stone forever.
Blizzard: “We reduced the potency of one ability to be more in-line with the other Core skills to increase variety.”
TB Players: “OMG! ENTIRE ROGUE CLASS UNPLAYABLE!! WTF BLIZZARD!!”
You seem to misunderstand the fact that META players will chase damage, while class enjoyers will chase enjoyment of playstyles.
Whats being nerfed isnt the damage output, but the feel of the playstyle. So how are the people that are asking for damage nerfs instead of playstyle changes META chasers ? It feels like you just throw that word in there because theres no other argument you can pull up that isnt “get used to it”, “we had to adapt so do you”, “other classes had to adapt”.
You sound bitter its painful.
Just curious, do you see the difference between NERFED and BUGGED?
It’s not that TB got a nerf to cooldowns, this is fine and can work around it, but when tooltip says you can get max 2 sec reduction and you hit 30 monsters with it and and get 0.1 sec cooldown reduction total for all fo them then there is something wrong here.
With smart people like you who says to work around the bug, then why would anybody bother fixing anything? Normal people demand working game they paid for. Nerfs are ok, things not working as described is not.
Lol you sound bitter that people might just enjoy playing classes. I min max my character but i don’t care whether the character is nerfed or not its simply out of my control. Living in fear of nerfs in a live service game is laughable.
What is that even supposed to mean ?
I just dont like how you misportray people that like a playstyle to be people that just play stuff because its strong. You’re wrong and have difficulties admitting it, while bothering others that want to enjoy their class again the way it was before Blizzard butchered it.
If I was wrong why did blizzard fix twisting blades? Literally all i have been saying is you guys are going to have to adapt around blizzards nerfs and buffs. Other classes have this is no different. Minons sucked well guess what necros rolled bonespear. Whirlwind fury gen is trash guess what you roll hota. Meta skills are going to get trash canned this is known.
Yes, that is true. But butchering your entire build to be unplayable is not something that has happened to other classes. If you feel like its compareable then you didnt play rogue and shouldnt comment on it. Its as simple as that.
Also you were wrong on when you called People that want the playstyle to be playable again “META” players. Either you dont understand what “META” players are or you simply misused it. Because this isnt a META issue, this is a “playstyle doesnt function anymore” problem.
Lol you had one skill nerfed barbs had their entire character all builds nerfed. You’re right its really not comparable to the barb situation you got off easier. I never said that people who want something to be playable are meta players. But there are people who only play classes because they are the flavor of the moment these are meta chasers.
Again you are going to have to adapt to what blizzard does like the rest of the classes do. Sorry your favorite skill got nerfed sorry it was your classes meta build that got targeted. But lets be honest all the meta skills are going to get nuked at some point.
This whole discussion would be a whole lot more fruitful if you quit that BS hyperbole.
If the entire build is non-functional because one ability got tuned down and you aren’t buzz sawing through giant mob packs at little to no downtime, then the ability was clearly way too good (assuming it isn’t actually bugged).
I don’t believe that the whole build can’t still work. You just need to be more careful and not go in with reckless abandon. Retreat is the better part of valor, after all.
Can we get any answer from blizzard?
I never understood why it would allow you to double dip on CD reduction since Orbit is not the same as pass through technically.
Again, as mentioned before, its not nerfed, it is broken. It does not work as a tooltip says.
The tooltip says it reduces cooldowns by 0.1 second PER ENEMY HIT by returning blades and maximum of 2 seconds.
That means you get 2 seconds cdr if you hit 20 mobs by returning blades from 1 attack.
At the moment when returning blades hit 20 mobs you get 0.1 cdr.
Does it sound like a bug to you? For me it does. It cleary doesn’t work as the tooltip says and the change they made and put it in hotfix as fixed actually broke it.
And to be clear, I agree with nerfs, buffs etc. and adjusting to it. What I do not agree is to ajdust to bugs. Bugs should be fixed and the skills should work as they say.
Can you stop the offtopic Skalgard? This is a bug, not a nerf alone, it’s like saying they removed shout cooldowns but cooldown reduction also didn’t affect shouts, stop crying about how poor barbs and go post unrelated stuff somewhere else.
it’s crazy, you are litteraly on every discussion on this forum about twisting blades, and you keep crying on all of them for your rogue level 75,
think about the way you play, because i’m litteraly destroying donjons at level 60, and i’m doing level 17 keys, which means level 70+ monsters, i dont think this is normal. or it’s atleast still really good and balanced.
I don’t watch streamers but I did watch some different YouTube videos of classes and specs and the TB rogue is the one I fell in love with and the only one I wanted to play. Now, TO ME, it feels like crap and is very janky. It feels like I’m messing up shifting gears in a manual transmission. When it works it’s fine, when it doesn’t and I have to run around like a fool dodging attacks while I wait for CDs/energy, it feels awful. I don’t want to play if I can’t play this build like I was all this week. That’s just how I feel /shrug
You’re like thick in the head or something. We aren’t upset about the nerf. It’s BUGGED…